VAR - 2020/21

[jitsubluedan]

But the penalty call as well in the first half. I know it deflects up off his thigh, but his arms should not be in that position in his own box. They're well away from his body.
if I compare it to the penalty awarded against Micah when we were playing Liverpool in the league cup (I know, I've got a long, merciless, vindictive memory, especially where the dippers are concerned — for my mental health, I should let it go…) the ball, blasted at him from a shorter distance by the way, also deflects up off his thigh, but onto his hand which is right in front of his face. As you would expect it to be.

You’re not alone - that one still riles; I still rant about the injustice of that decision.

IIRC Micah was falling (slipped) at the time so instinctively put his hands out when the ball rebounded onto it. Think the ref was Phil Dowd - when he was still a fat twat who couldn’t keep up with play!

 

[Lovebitesandeveryfing]

Yes, it was Dowd. This from David Mooney's report, 26 January, 2012:

“But the lead didn’t last long. Micah Richards was adjudged to have handled a fierce drive inside the penalty area and the referee pointed to the spot. It was a very harsh decision – Richards blocked with his foot before the ball ricocheted up onto his arm and the ball was struck from three yards in front of him – but the referee waved away the protests and Gerrard slotted the spot kick home.”
We would have gone through on the away goals rule.

 

[Kippax77]

VAR should work perfectly well if games were viewed neutrally and impartially but this is the English Premier League so this will never happen.
Too many "hidden agendas" going on behind the scenes is the reason there is no consistency.
I firmly believe that last nights decisions were took by Mike Dean with Premier League/FA approval to favour Villa after our legal goal went against them.
Was going to mention Pogba's dive too but Villa wouldn't get any payback from the FA for that because uShited are stalwarts of the "hidden agendas"

 

[Pingu the Penguin]

*bump*
Needs a serious rethink, and as for “monitors not working”.......

I hope it works at Anfield this weekend....unlike the previous time we were there

 

[The Future’s Blue!]

*bump*
Needs a serious rethink, and as for “monitors not working”.......

I hope it works at Anfield this weekend....unlike the previous time we were there

I wish the ‘monitors’ weren’t working back in my school days, the little fuckers used to make my life hell, even when I was being an angel.

 

[Blue Mist]

Where are the VAR apologists today?
First Luiz, disgraceful that the ref and the Var man allowed that decision.
Second if VAR can rule on the tightest of offsides against Southampton, why can they not do so regarding a blatant dive.
It is pointless having it when decisions like the 2 red cards are allowed.

 

[BlueHammer85]

Where are the VAR apologists today?
First Luiz, disgraceful that the ref and the Var man allowed that decision.
Second if VAR can rule on the tightest of offsides against Southampton, why can they not do so regarding a blatant dive.
It is pointless having it when decisions like the 2 red cards are allowed.

big difference between a apologist and someone that wants it to work to better the game

I've not seen the Luiz incident, but i've just seen the clip of the Martial dive.

now in normal circumstance without VAR i would say it's not the refs fault for giving it , as from his angle and speed it looks like Martial was taken out... however, thanks to VAR he is able to have a clearer look and still gives a pen! that is beyond farcical to me. but it's nice we know the ref has no excuse. he is able to view it again in clear slow mo and still gets the wrong decision! so he deserves all the stick he gets for this awful decision.

unless i've got this wrong, as iv'e only seen one reply from one angle, but it looked a clear dive.

so frustrating as I stick up for refs and how tough they have it, but when they get calls like this wrong, there is simply no defence.

 

[Blue Mist]

big difference between a apologist and someone that wants it to work to better the game

I've not seen the Luiz incident, but i've just seen the clip of the Martial dive.

now in normal circumstance without VAR i would say it's not the refs fault for giving it , as from his angle and speed it looks like Martial was taken out... however, thanks to VAR he is able to have a clearer look and still gives a pen! that is beyond farcical to me. but it's nice we know the ref has no excuse. he is able to view it again in clear slow mo and still gets the wrong decision! so he deserves all the stick he gets for this awful decision.

unless i've got this wrong, as iv'e only seen one reply from one angle, but it looked a clear dive.

so frustrating as I stick up for refs and how tough they have it, but when they get calls like this wrong, there is simply no defence.

So VAR is a waste of time. Glad we agree.

 

[BlueHammer85]

So VAR is a waste of time. Glad we agree.

Nope, it's not, as has been proven many times with so many correct calls.

but when a ref can't get a decision right even with the benefit of replays - it's not the VAR that's the problem

 

[mosssideblue]

So VAR is a waste of time. Glad we agree.

Once it has gifted the rags the title, it will be fucked off, genuinely believe that.

Sadly, it means it will be about for years to come as too many clubs still streets ahead of the scum.