But the penalty call as well in the first half. I know it deflects up off his thigh, but his arms should not be in that position in his own box. They're well away from his body.
if I compare it to the penalty awarded against Micah when we were playing Liverpool in the league cup (I know, I've got a long, merciless, vindictive memory, especially where the dippers are concerned — for my mental health, I should let it go…) the ball, blasted at him from a shorter distance by the way, also deflects up off his thigh, but onto his hand which is right in front of his face. As you would expect it to be.
I wish the ‘monitors’ weren’t working back in my school days, the little fuckers used to make my life hell, even when I was being an angel.*bump*
Needs a serious rethink, and as for “monitors not working”.......
I hope it works at Anfield this weekend....unlike the previous time we were there
Where are the VAR apologists today?
First Luiz, disgraceful that the ref and the Var man allowed that decision.
Second if VAR can rule on the tightest of offsides against Southampton, why can they not do so regarding a blatant dive.
It is pointless having it when decisions like the 2 red cards are allowed.
So VAR is a waste of time. Glad we agree.big difference between a apologist and someone that wants it to work to better the game
I've not seen the Luiz incident, but i've just seen the clip of the Martial dive.
now in normal circumstance without VAR i would say it's not the refs fault for giving it , as from his angle and speed it looks like Martial was taken out... however, thanks to VAR he is able to have a clearer look and still gives a pen! that is beyond farcical to me. but it's nice we know the ref has no excuse. he is able to view it again in clear slow mo and still gets the wrong decision! so he deserves all the stick he gets for this awful decision.
unless i've got this wrong, as iv'e only seen one reply from one angle, but it looked a clear dive.
so frustrating as I stick up for refs and how tough they have it, but when they get calls like this wrong, there is simply no defence.
So VAR is a waste of time. Glad we agree.
Once it has gifted the rags the title, it will be fucked off, genuinely believe that.So VAR is a waste of time. Glad we agree.
I'd be all for it if it were totally transparent like in cricket and rugby where everyone can hear the discussion.Nope, it's not, as has been proven many times with so many correct calls.
but when a ref can't get a decision right even with the benefit of replays - it's not the VAR that's the problem
Where are the VAR apologists today?
First Luiz, disgraceful that the ref and the Var man allowed that decision.
Second if VAR can rule on the tightest of offsides against Southampton, why can they not do so regarding a blatant dive.
It is pointless having it when decisions like the 2 red cards are allowed.
I'd be all for it if it were totally transparent like in cricket and rugby where everyone can hear the discussion.
I suspect there is a reason why football doesn't want to go down that route
At the moment, VAR has no credibility imo as, as you say, very obvious mistakes are slipping through.yep i'd be happy with that aswell, anything to cut down the ridiculous decisions.
what we can't do is give up and go back to 'how it was' .. as there would be loads more incidences of Martial dive and the refs can get away with it by having the excuse of his angle and speed. Dean has no excuse for that decision last night and he is quite rightly getting pelters from everyone.
VAR last night at Old Toilet was a joke.....every man and his dog thought Dean was asked to go to the monitor to see if Martial had dived (which he did). The picture was frozen and stayed frozen whilst Dean was getting instructions in his ear...it turns out he was being told that the penalty was to stand but the card should be upgraded to a red.....Rag corruption in full view! Is anyone on Sly saying this is unpalatable?
I accept VAR the machine is not the problem, it is the wankers using it.