Var debate 2019/20

painful to watch Andy Gray talk sense but there we are, how can we deal with such exactitudes in the offside call when we are dealing not only with technology that can't allow for those calls but officials who, not necessarily through any fault, cant or dont consistently choose the right frame to pause it on.
 
Where they should take the decision for offside is from the last frame before there's clear daylight between the part of the player who passed it to the goalscorer and before there's actual daylight between that body part and the ball. If that was done across the board it would at least be consistent and in theory benefit the attacker more than the defender if it was after there was a gap.
 
Ref Watch on Sky with Dermot Gallacher - talking about the VAR decisions in our game and claiming that VAR is perfect. No discussion about how the operators determine when the ball is played, or where the lines are drawn. I am fairly sure that there is human input in all of this, therefore it's subjective and open to error (or worse!).

Talk about missing the fucking point!
 
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Just showed an incident on Vardy which Dermott Gallagher said would have been reviewed quietly but it's not a pen.

Far more of one than Salah gets.

And Maguire on Abraham isn't a foul & is 'too far back' , to be reviewed.

I fucking GUARANTEE this will not be a consistent viewpoint for all 3 questions as the season goes on.
 
painful to watch Andy Gray talk sense but there we are, how can we deal with such exactitudes in the offside call when we are dealing not only with technology that can't allow for those calls but officials who, not necessarily through any fault, cant or dont consistently choose the right frame to pause it on.

Make them do it, live on Sky, on the Sterling offside & try rolling the frame on or back & redrawing the lines, see what happens.

Prove there can only be one correct outcome, each time.
 
Make them do it, live on Sky, on the Sterling offside & try rolling the frame on or back & redrawing the lines, see what happens.

Prove there can only be one correct outcome, each time.

i dont want to labour points others have made (and probably with better knowledge) but it looked practically impossible to tell when the ball actually hits the assister's foot with that frame rate - a player could go from onside to off in a frame while the ball could have actually hit the assister's foot inbetween those 2 frames. I think this is a crazy amount of detail to go into and agree with Espirito Santo in many respects.
 
i dont want to labour points others have made (and probably with better knowledge) but it looked practically impossible to tell when the ball actually hits the assister's foot with that frame rate - a player could go from onside to off in a frame while the ball could have actually hit the assister's foot inbetween those 2 frames. I think this is a crazy amount of detail to go into and agree with Espirito Santo in many respects.

They are blatantly lying, saying this technology 'proves' anything & should be stopped from disallowing goals on such fine margins.
 

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