Var debate 2019/20

[hampshireblue]

I'm not sure how they could determine when Silva actually played the ball. The frame they show is through a defender's legs and you can't tell if the ball is in contact with David or not. If it's inconclusive they should revert to the on field decision like in cricket.

 

[SWP's back]

They are blatantly lying, saying this technology 'proves' anything & should be stopped from disallowing goals on such fine margins.

Two questions:

1) do you think they’re going to get more decision correct this year than last year?

2) why do you think the club and Pep are in favour?

 

[SWP's back]

They are blatantly lying, saying this technology 'proves' anything & should be stopped from disallowing goals on such fine margins.

Wherever you draw the metaphoric line, there would be a line and anything over by an inch of that line would then be too fine a margin for you.

 

[SWP's back]

I'm not sure how they could determine when Silva actually played the ball. The frame they show is through a defender's legs and you can't tell if the ball is in contact with David or not. If it's inconclusive they should revert to the on field decision like in cricket.

They use more than one camera.

 

[shemnel]

So do you think that Spurs goal in the CL quarter final was ok then? Because it was the same as the Wolves goal, it hit an attackers arm, leading directly to a goal.

hmmm. i think there is scope to pick and choose technological remedies - for instance ball line tech seems pretty smooth and quick for a non-subjective issue - but then offside calls look hideously fraught. However, you see some offsides not spotted that are yards off and obviously should be chalked off. I do have an issue with this millimetres stuff though. Handballs i havent considered yet.

i am not claiming to know any correct answers, just my opinion at the end of the day, but i do love football for being a game of fluidity, interpretation, arguments and so on. We are at a stage where the stakes have become too high monetarily and that is driving a push to getting the right answers for everything while the processes do not allow for it.

handballs look like another subjective area but if they're going down the path of anything that hits a hand, that's really harsh and definitely changes the rules of what the game was. For the spurs one it pissed me off rotten but to be honest, i moved on pretty quickly.

 

[Neville Kneville]

Two questions:

1) do you think they’re going to get more decision correct this year than last year?

2) why do you think the club and Pep are in favour?

1: Close decisions absolutely not, they are going to disallow goals incorrectly because the technology is flawed. Obvious bad offside mistakes will be improved yes.
2: Pep tends to trust people. Imo he is already starting to realise it's spoiling the game.

 

[homerdog]

Two questions:

1) do you think they’re going to get more decision correct this year than last year?

2) why do you think the club and Pep are in favour?

I get your point, but we'll have to wait and see how it pans out. After all, that Andy Grey clip proves that the system is open to interpretation by the operators. I would rather those really tight decisions go in favour of the attacking team and leave VAR to decide the more clear cut ones.

 

[Rammyblues]

I don't mind VAR being used as long as the same criteria are used every time and that there is consistency in the decision making process. In cricket it seems the judges are trusted to make those decisions as they are in Rugby but for some strange reason I still get the impression they apply one set of rules for us and another to everyone else. No doubt that isn't the case but that is my feeling.

 

[homerdog]

hmmm. i think there is scope to pick and choose technological remedies - for instance ball line tech seems pretty smooth and quick for a non-subjective issue - but then offside calls look hideously fraught. However, you see some offsides not spotted that are yards off and obviously should be chalked off. I do have an issue with this millimetres stuff though. Handballs i havent considered yet.

I think we are broadly in agreement!

 

[meeesh]

The hesitation was about waiting to see if City got an advantage.

The only advantage there could remotely have been,was if Mahrez got a shot away,and as he was falling to the ground in that motion,there was no chance of that happening.

Dean hesitated,for what seemed an age,plain and simple