Var debate 2019/20

SWP's back said:
Bein Sports taking VAR apart for being useless in not making the ref check the monitor for all these decisions.

Saying IFAB’s rules state the referee SHOULD be invited to view the replay on the monitor.

Using German league from today as example of how it should be used and how VAR made a ref re-look at an incident today and he changed his mind.

Taking the puss out of Mike Riley and saying “Sorry Mike, you’re wrong”. “PL is only league in the world doing it this way”
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I understand why they don't look at the monitor(as to not stop the play as long)
but its not working for me cos as they are getting decisions wrong.
Refs seem to stick up for each other from what I have seen of those that they have in the TV and radio studios.
I feel like they are unwilling to criticise and correct each other, think it should be done by a third party where they don't have a connection to the ref on the pitch.
 
Proy said:
Whether VAR is being used in isolation against us is debatable at best and after this weekend I would suggest it isn't.

That said, the league is bent. The FA have a beef with us. The club know it.
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What's the FA got to do with the league. Bent as in corrupt ? If so who’s paying who and why, and will they want their money back for the last two years?
 
daztrueblue91 said:
Since when has an incorrect decision been the benchmark of what is considered penalty?

IMO, the Kane one could have gone either way. Certainly no complaints if it was given.
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There is very soft and there is stonewall,i'd have been mad if the kane one was given

Look,PIGMOL need to come out and explain what the threshold is,they have clearly changed it but are keeping it a secret,they are being shady which makes us suspicious,also stop with the pen reviews if as it seems they have no intention of changing what the ref says,it's for show,just stop it
Explain what they mean by clear and obvious as it clearly means different things to us and them
Change the offside from what they admit they can't be sure of to a clear margin of error pre determined so we all know what it is,they chalked off raz's goal with equipement that is not quick enough
 
blueparrot said:
What's the FA got to do with the league. Bent as in corrupt ? If so who’s paying who and why, and will they want their money back for the last two years?
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The premier league I meant. Yes they are bent.

Not getting in another debate about this.
 
Something people keep forgetting about VAR use in the PL is why referees aren’t reviewing key decisions by themselves at the side of the pitch like they do in Europe? They’re surely much more likely to overturn their own decision if they have another look.
 
Stato said:
I understand why they don't look at the monitor(as to not stop the play as long)
but its not working for me cos as they are getting decisions wrong.
Refs seem to stick up for each other from what I have seen of those that they have in the TV and radio studios.
I feel like they are unwilling to criticise and correct each other, think it should be done by a third party where they don't have a connection to the ref on the pitch.
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Think the thinking is, they don't review on the screen to save time, the consequence of that is the VAR give the decision but because they dont want to be seen overturning ref on the pitch decisions the bar has been set very high. Think eventually they’ll have to let the refs review it and lower the bar. Be surprised if its before next season though.
 
As soon as City finished I watched the brilliant last few overs of the test match. The Aussies used their final review on an LBW call. The equivalent of the VAR examined the call very quickly using the technology for all to see and explained his decision fully and transparently in a well spoken and authoritative way.

I still do not know why the clowns did not give a penalty for the foul on Silva.

What worries me is that so few of the media make any adverse comments on these decisions.
 
Its now 3 out of 3 games we've been screwed ..... just an observation. It's clearly not working and needs to be either gotten rid of or suspended until they can sort it out and use it for what it was designed for. Otherwise it could cost clubs titles and relegation and significant financial loss. OTT ? maybe but its worth discussing.
 
blueparrot said:
Think the thinking is, they don't review on the screen to save time, the consequence of that is the VAR give the decision but because they dont want to be seen overturning ref on the pitch decisions the bar has been set very high. Think eventually they’ll have to let the refs review it and lower the bar. Be surprised if its before next season though.
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Once one goes against Liverpool (now a couple have gone against United), there will slowly be a media groundswell to get them to allow the refs to use the monitor more. Then they’ll change it.
 
SWP's back said:
Christ on a fucking bike.

No decisions have been overturned. The var bar for ‘clear and obvious’ error is so fucking high as to be ludicrous. But not just for us, for everyone.

Yes, Silva should have had a penalty, as should Rodri, Rashford, Kane and Aspa. Var is not fit for purpose as they haven’t overturned a single penalty decision this season. Including at Burnley just now where the ref gave a very soft penalty (far softer than Silva’s or Kane’s) and they stuck with the on field ref.

What we and the pundits and commentators consider a clear and obvious error is completely different to the VAR interpretation of clear and obvious. That’s my fucking point. I’ve only said it about 160 times today.
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no idea where this var high bar is, but what i do know is the david silva incident is way above it, even if it makes it 161 times you say it
 
Fabled mabel said:
What worries me is that so few of the media make any adverse comments on these decisions.
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To be fair, I think most of the pundits are as confused as we are by the way VAR is being used. I'll be amazed if PiGMOL can continue to justify their arrogance and incompetence, when everyone can see that the PL is being devalued because of it.
 
SWP's back said:
Once one goes against Liverpool (now a couple have gone against United), there will slowly be a media groundswell to get them to allow the refs to use the monitor more. Then they’ll change it.
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At which point we will have been fucked countless times.

Doing that is also a glaring admission of guilt.

When I say guilt, I'm talking about bent cuñts on the take.
 
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