Var debate 2019/20

Of my five sons, one's a software developer and another a website designer. Both tell me the technology is already available to determine offside instantly - three bird-seye cameras above the pitch, merge the three images to create a single image. Image recognition technology instantly determines whether a player is offside. All Prem grounds can accommodate birds-eye cameras. Despite all the money in football, the Prem and FA are using Windows 98 pound shop, bargain bucket tech rather than the best available.
To be fair, determining where a player is stood in difficult enough with the low frame rate TV Broadcast cameras use, but the issue is determining when the passing player first touches the ball, in relation to where the supposed offside player is stood.

That is the problem they won't overcome anytime soon, unless this frame rate issue is overcome, & the frames in question also cover the passing player's first touch too.
 
365 pages and I still haven't seen a single pic from the reverse angle showing the ball hitting Laporte. The only thing we have seen is inconclusive pictures of both players with arms up (spuds defender more so that Laporte) and the ball changing flight from contact from one or the other. I think the VAR officials GUESSED that it was Laporte's arm which therefore isn't a factual decision.
 
To be fair, determining where a player is stood in difficult enough with the low frame rate TV Broadcast cameras use, but the issue is determining when the passing player first touches the ball, in relation to where the supposed offside player is stood.

That is the problem they won't overcome anytime soon, unless this frame rate issue is overcome, & the frames in question also cover the passing player's first touch too.
The best solution they could implement is have someone at the side of the pitch, running in line with the last defender, say a linesman, no, assistant referee, and give them some device that allows them to tell the referee if he has seen an infringement of the offside rule; a flag perhaps.

Quite why we all need physics degrees these days to understand football is ridiculous.
 
To be fair, determining where a player is stood in difficult enough with the low frame rate TV Broadcast cameras use, but the issue is determining when the passing player first touches the ball, in relation to where the supposed offside player is stood.

That is the problem they won't overcome anytime soon, unless this frame rate issue is overcome, & the frames in question also cover the passing player's first touch too.
Exactly. My sons tell me that the available tech is absolute and would determine offside as instantly as goal-line tech. It's as though the Prem have bought Quality Save and B&M's own brand tech rather than the best.
 
Would that have changed anything with Rodri?
On-field ref didn't give a foul.
We don't know if VAR said play on or review.
Either way, how would the challenge have changed it? If the ref's not giving it, he's not giving it.
When questioned about it, the ref was pointing to his earpiece & shrugging his shoulders. I can only take that to mean, 'No one's pointed it out to me mate'.

There was an arm around Rodri's neck.

There was contact with his legs.

The opposition player fell the fuck on top of Rodri.

With VAR in operation, on what planet isn't that a fuckin penalty?
 
I nearly put that in my post but didn’t as VAR wouldn’t get involved with that as far as I’m aware?
But, shocking decision by Oliver and we can only speculate as to why he didn’t give us the free kick. I mean, wtf had Oliver seen or thinks he’s seen? And if that was in the penalty would VAR have seen it the same way as Oliver??

Sorry for my late reply back, I was told to stop posting on BM and do some work. When it is your missus telling you, well you have to do as you are told ! …….. I realise that the Bernie foul would not be VAR'd and this is the VAR thread (One of many !) I asked because you are teetering on the edge of the agenda conspiracy whereas I an full blown into it. There is no legitimate way that a referee can see that as anything other than a foul for City. When I saw it from the Colin Bell stand the linesman flagged first and then dipstick blew. I thought and everyone around me thought he had blown for a foul FOR City. Other than a bias/agenda I cannot see any legitimate reason why the two idiots thought that wasn't the case. Even if they hadn't given it I would have accepted it but to give it against Berne it is simply bent.
 
The best solution they could implement is have someone at the side of the pitch, running in line with the last defender, say a linesman, no, assistant referee, and give them some device that allows them to tell the referee if he has seen an infringement of the offside rule; a flag perhaps.

Quite why we all need physics degrees these days to understand football is ridiculous.
Having a linesman patrolling each half of the pitch on both sides, & linesmen either side of each goal was mooted, but was deemed to expensive, & too interfering.

After what I've seen this season so far, I'd have 8 assistants & a referee as well as VAR. They need all the help they can get before this blows up.
 
When questioned about it, the ref was pointing to his earpiece & shrugging his shoulders. I can only take that to mean, 'No one's pointed it out to me mate'.

There was an arm around Rodri's neck.

There was contact with his legs.

The opposition player fell the fuck on top of Rodri.

With VAR in operation, on what planet isn't that a fuckin penalty?

CLEARLY and OBVIOUSLY the attacker was wearing a blue shirt.
(VAR Rule 178, subsection 2, paragraph 4 in the small print......)
 
Same question has been asked several times on different threads, nobody has any idea but I fear the answer lies in what colour shirt the scorer is playing in.

Correct because one of Rashford's goals v Chelsea, McGuire fouled a Chelsea attacker on the edge of the area, the rags broke upfield and scored, was that reviewed, you know the answer....
 
It might save a lot of time and trouble if we just throw a load of data about players and management in to a computer, press a button and get the results for the season.
 

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