Var debate 2019/20

[Paladin]

His arm changed the way of the ball. Accident clearly but thats how it is. Gaining possession, gaining control is the same. The "/" I guess means or here.

Laporte did not gain possession (or control) of the ball. Everything else is irrelevant because this did not happen. Even if we accept that City / Jesus did gain possession after the ball hit Laporte's hand, which we do, does not change the fact that Laporte did not gain possession of the ball. Therefore no offence was committed. Therefore it was a goal.

Personally, I blame the English teachers.

 

[SWP's back]

Why are people still arguing it? You can argue it’s wrong all you like but the PL and PGMOL have said it was correct so now we know that if someone scores after an accidental handball then it’s going to be ruled out.

 

[SWP's back]

Correct, and because Laporte wasn't the one that scored or attempted to score that's where the rule ends.

Apparently not.

 

[warringtonblue]

No I don’t think so. Play doesn’t change every time one player touches it.

it did for the Norwich goal yesterday

 

[meltonblue]

Why are people still arguing it? You can argue it’s wrong all you like but the PL and PGMOL have said it was correct so now we know that if someone scores after an accidental handball then it’s going to be ruled out.

Exactly, and this was all known before our game anyway as it happened to Wolves.

 

[SWP's back]

it did for the Norwich goal yesterday

It became second phase when the same player touches it twice? I’ve not watched the game but I find that incredibly difficult to believe or even understand.

 

[Bill]

Why are people still arguing it? You can argue it’s wrong all you like but the PL and PGMOL have said it was correct so now we know that if someone scores after an accidental handball then it’s going to be ruled out.

Good luck with that.

 

[Bandofblues]

I have and still disagree on your interpritation....the OR means that he doesnt have to be in possession or control....

Deconstruct the sentence:

"Football does not accept:
A player gaining possesion/control of the ball from their hand/arm and then scoring or creating a goal scoring opportunity."

It is either:

Football does not accept:
- A player gaining possesion/control of the ball from their hand/arm and then scoring
Football does not accept:
- A player gaining possesion/control of the ball from their hand/arm and then creating a goal scoring opportunity."

Or it is:

Football does not accept:
- A player gaining possesion/control of the ball from their hand/arm and then scoring
Football does not accept:
- Creating a goal scoring opportunity.


The 2nd interpretation does not make any sense.
The examples given by IFAB clearly indicate the situations the new rule was introduced for.

 

[SWP's back]

Good luck with that.

Happened to Wolves as well.

 

[warringtonblue]

It became second phase when the same player touches it twice? I’ve not watched the game but I find that incredibly difficult to believe or even understand.

that seemed to be what was implied on tv last night