Var debate 2019/20

[SebastianBlue]

If anyone needs a reminder of the man in charge of the implementation of VAR.

 

[SWP's back]

It’s very simple, whatever happens just make the “correct” decision.

As fans 9/10 we can tell within seconds whether a decision is correct or not. We all make mistakes and the odd one we could all accept when there’s different angles etc. I’ve personally got an apology to make to @SWP's back with regards to the Martial incident last weekend, I saw a clip from the Scum’s game from behind the goal and it’s clear he was pulled again in the box. I was fucking adamant that the foul stopped outside the box and it does IMO, however the defender pulls him again inside the box from a different angle.

However, the stuff like Grealish, Silva and Rodri’s penalties are just laughable. The Tielmann’s red card yesterday, we all know as fans that’s a leg breaker and a straight red whether it’s intention or not, it’s reckless and dangerous. The Laporte handball is clearly bollocks, he didn’t have a clue where that had gone and there’s no proof it even hit his hand/arm unlike yesterday’s decision at Newcastle.

No worries mate and no need to apologise although I appreciate the sentiment.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

But he hadn’t fallen over and was still in control of the ball at that point.

Come on mate, you know the ref blew after he went over in the box.

I’m just trying to portray what they suggested on MOTD last night. They said that if the whistle was blown for the foul being outside of the box, then VAR can’t get involved, meaning that the mistake was by the on field referee and outside the remit of VAR.

I obviously think Villa have been robbed and the goal should have stood.

 

[Ban-jani]

I’ve just seen the Villa one.

That’s even worse than the ones we’ve had.

I’m giving up, football has gone.

 

[The Light Was Yellow Sir]

I’ve just seen the Villa one.

That’s even worse than the ones we’ve had.

I’m giving up, football has gone.

Watch the Newcastle goal.

 

[Fabled mabel]

If anyone needs a reminder of the man in charge of the implementation of VAR.

I am sure there are many tactical fouls in there but of course they were not invented until we did last year.

One thing, it goes to show that Gary Neville is an absolute cnut then and now and a good illustration how the rags shared the fouls to avoid cards.

History has been rewritten but Numquam oblitus by me.

 

[Rochdale Blue]

Most seasons.

And it’s not the laws that ever change, it’s their interpretation and implementation.

Can you show me any of those interpretations that changed a clubs final position in the course of that season, because their messing around can't fail to affect teams in this one.

 

[The Light Was Yellow Sir]

I’ve just seen the Villa one.

That’s even worse than the ones we’ve had.

I’m giving up, football has gone.

To be fair though, VAR had absolutely nothing to do with that. That was all down to Kevin Friend being a shit referee...

 

[SWP's back]

Can you show me any of those interpretations that changed a clubs final position in the course of that season, because their messing around can't fail to affect teams in this one.

No I’ve no idea if any final positions changed because of it. I know we lost two points at Stoke a couple of seasons back when Sterling gave away a penalty when Mike Dean gave a penalty for Sterling not looking at the ball.

 

[SebastianBlue]

To be fair though, VAR had absolutely nothing to do with that. That was all down to Kevin Friend being a shit referee...

VAR (which encompasses technology, policies, practices, and people operating) has everything to do with it, unless it is being argued that VAR isn’t meant to correct poor refereeing, human error, and/or imperfect immediate access to information.

In which case, what is VAR meant to do, exactly?

If there are VAR use policies/practices in place that arbitrarily prevent VAR from reviewing a specific incident (in this case based on when a referee supposedly blew the whistle, which has actually been called in to question in the context of the explanation of VAR’s non-involvement, anyway), then it is still a VAR issue, in addition to an incompetent referee issue.