Var debate 2019/20

[blueinsa]

Those stills actually make me feel sick.

Im actually numb to them as i dont expect any different.

Ive said it from day one, all season and will never change my mind about the sheer corruption in the game and the way we are often singled out far more than any other club for the shitty end of their sticks.

 

[mardon85]

They are changing the rules on a match by match basis so there is not one iota of an 'interest in fairness.' The PL want a Liverpool title win and so do the media, nothing will stop that happening.

So what happened to them against united?
It's not a conspiracy they're just incompetent arse covering idiots.

 

[daveyboybluemoon]

The reason given by 'VAR' was his hand wasn't in an unnatural position.

IT'S BOLLOCKS.

My money is on the fact that VAR wasn't in operation for the game yesterday, and they just blagged it.

I agree it should have been a pen, im just trying to show why TAA's handball wasn't considered in disallowing Fabinho's goals.

 

[Dave Ewing's Back 'eader]

This is the rule;

• a player gains control/possession of the ball after it touches their hand/arm and then scores, or creates a goal-scoring opportunity

We were attacking at the Kop end. TAA handles and clears the ball and twenty one seconds later the ball is in the goal. There is no "directly" mentioned in the rule.

So the goal should not stand.

If PiGMOL, the PL or the FArce were to give an explanation as to why the goal was allowed to stand after having had the Law read to them they will insert the word 'directly' and tell us that the handball is sanctioned only when the ball passes DIRECTLY to a person who scores so that they can then look at the questioner with a knowing smile on their collective face! Another LotG expanded and enlarged to fit their desired outcome. PiGMOL needs to renamed - MUTLAYGA - Make Up The Laws As You Go Along!

 

[MCC]

How very convenient if VAR wasn't working in the first half! If true, that would be the 2nd game we've been involved in with VAR not working and in both occasions we have been royally shafted.

 

[daveyboybluemoon]

This is the rule;

• a player gains control/possession of the ball after it touches their hand/arm and then scores, or creates a goal-scoring opportunity

We were attacking at the Kop end. TAA handles and clears the ball and twenty one seconds later the ball is in the goal. There is no "directly" mentioned in the rule.

So the goal should not stand.

The goal should stand (once the penalty wasn't given, which it should have been) -

His hand ball didn't create the goal scoring opportunity, ilkays clearance makes the goal scoring opportunity.

It touches TAA's arm... he doesn't then gain possession and immediately score

Like i said, once the penalty wasn't given (incorrectly).... The goal is correct & should stand no matter how much we as blues don't want to hear that

 

[daveyboybluemoon]

If PiGMOL, the PL or the FArce were to give an explanation as to why the goal was allowed to stand after having had the Law read to them they will insert the word 'directly' and tell us that the handball is sanctioned only when the ball passes DIRECTLY to a person who scores so that they can then look at the questioner with a knowing smile on their collective face! Another LotG expanded and enlarged to fit their desired outcome. PiGMOL needs to renamed - MUTLAYGA - Make Up The Laws As You Go Along!

Once the penalty hasn't been given (incorrectly), the first goal should stand as TAA's handball doesn't go into the net nor does it create the goal scoring opportunity, our "clearance" does that

 

[blueinsa]

Like i said, once the penalty wasn't given (incorrectly).... The goal is correct & should stand no matter how much we as blues don't want to hear that

That isn't correct at all.

VAR would have picked up on the accidental handball from Bernado and awarded them a free kick.

At no point should it have been play on and it should not have led to a goal.

 

[Allnightlong]

The goal should stand (once the penalty wasn't given, which it should have been) -

His hand ball didn't create the goal scoring opportunity, ilkays clearance makes the goal scoring opportunity.

It touches TAA's arm... he doesn't then gain possession and immediately score

Like i said, once the penalty wasn't given (incorrectly).... The goal is correct & should stand no matter how much we as blues don't want to hear that

but TAA has delibrately handled the ball so the game should have stopped and a penalty given....then under VAR, the desicion overturned and free kick to Liverpool for Bernardos handball.

 

[Ric]

I initially welcomed the introduction of VAR, naively thinking it would enhance the game and eliminate any potential bias from refs as their decisions would face greater scrutiny. The precise opposite has happened though, as many predicted it would, and there is now far more opportunity for officials to influence games as they see fit. The explanation given yesterday for the Alexander-Arnold handball (that his arm was in a "natural" position) is an insult to fans' intelligence, and the haste with which they concluded that Salah was onside makes a mockery of the system. I'm absolutely certain that if those two calls had been the other way around, Liverpool would've been awarded the penalty and the goal for us would have been judged offside.