VAR Discussion Thread - 2023/24 | PL clubs to vote on whether to scrap VAR (pg413)

[halfcenturyup]

var highlighting various shithousery situations, with retrospective punishments, a public game clock that would nullify time-wasting to a large extent. straight red for the so-called "professional foul", ie deliberate foul play, simple enough to put into practice, and would help to diminish the ever-present suspicion of corruption. Breath not held of course....The off-side situation, relying on perfect synchronisation of two events, with a technology that was never designed to be used with millimetre and nano second parameters could be resolved by scrapping a law brought in more than a century ago, when "goal-hanging" was a universal tactic. Bit like the scrum in RU, defended to the hilt by the luddites, who would rather see the game die than admit the bleedin' obvious.

Yerwot?

 

[cleavers]

Pointless putting any effort into explaining VAR errors, no one gets the points back

In this case, there would be no getting points back anyway, we scored 4 other times.

 

[Gray]

Pointless putting any effort into explaining VAR errors, no one gets the points back

How about replaying the games. More TV coverage, more money, more ripping off the match going fan. What is there to not like about that?

 

[BlueHammer85]

How about replaying the games. More TV coverage, more money, more ripping off the match going fan. What is there to not like about that?

More moaning.

 

[Bigga]

What I'm failing to understand is why they're bothering to release the conversations, post match, if they're so confident to do so.

Some 'chats' must be pretty bullshit otherwise they'd allow mic'd up conversation from the ref and VAR now.

 

[The Future’s Blue!]

Who the fuck is that scouser shouting ‘Where, where … ‘? No wonder they can’t get, anything right with that fucker screaming in the background.

 

[Tommy_Catons_Perm]

Quite right. The lack of terminology from the laws is astounding. The Onana incident. Late, very late, clumsy. What is all that about? It's like two guys discussing it in a pub.

The discussion should be: Was he making a challenge? Yes. Did he show a lack of attention or consideration? Yes ("clumsy"), offense, direct free kick. Penalty. Did he act with disregard to the safety of (or consequences to) an opponent? Yes. Yellow card. Did he use excessive force? No. No red card.

Done and dusted, and explained with the LOTG so everyone can understand it in ten seconds.

It's like amateur hour. Don't they get any training? Too busy with Webbsy, Deansy and all the other cuntsies in their first-class gym and canteen, I imagine.

I watched the Rugby League Challenge Cup final. The VAR footage and conversations were presented live using precise language in a manner similar to your suggestion. Even though i'm not a rugby fan it was clear and understandable how and why the VAR reached the decisions. The VAR came across as competent and professional.

Contrast that with the football VAR footage which is shambolic and unconvincing.

 

[Tommy_Catons_Perm]

I don’t often bother with these threads but there’s something bothersome about PGMOL. Can’t quite figure out why but when I hear the referees communicate in football it sounds odd. Yet when I watch Rugby League/Union it sounds far more coherent and all around more professional.

Took the words right out of my mouth. I hadn't read your post before I posted above.

 

[pauls]

What I'm failing to understand is why they're bothering to release the conversations, post match, if they're so confident to do so.

Some 'chats' must be pretty bullshit otherwise they'd allow mic'd up conversation from the ref and VAR now.

I'd love to ask Webb can we hear the audio for the Rashford/Fernandes goal at the swamp last season. If you've NOTHING to hide let's hear it ?

 

[danielwood5]

I agree.

It highlights the inconsistency/Incompetence/corruption* of match officials.

The dippers one was allowed as well which had an even stronger arguement than Ake's being disallowed.

If the inconsistency/Incompetence/corruption* with regards to this rule continues team will get cute with offside/players blocking keepers view and rolling the dice on if the officials give it.




*Choose which is applicable from your viewpoint

They've already been doing that, when the rules were first changed on offsides, and the whole active/inactive thing was added, Alardyce at Bolton would put a player right on top of the goalkeeper from corners and freekicks to block his runs to the ball, it was pretty effective and they ended up quite high up the league for a few seasons.