VAR Discussion Thread | 2024/25

It's corrupt as simple as.
My love of football is dying. Very quickly.
One official can't do a 4th round cup tie against City because he was Palace player and yet can do a cup final.
2 officials on the pitch can't see an obvious red card and their mates on Var back them up.

I'm sick of it all
Forget City for a moment. Forests game was delayed for 6 minutes because, wait for it, the semi automated shite wasn't working and.... they had no comms between Var and the ref.
Slapstick at its finest/worst.

Fuck it off before fans walk away.
 
thegoatsthegoat said:
But when very clear points are put to you, and you bat off with "it isn't flawless" you are pissing in the wind. Tech hep? what do you plan for them, to grow extra eyes. WEEKLY, clear as day decisions keep happening due to the incompetency (as a minimum) of the idiots running the technology. If they cannot be trained properly or are too stupid to implement the rules then scrap the fucking thing. You want referee errors reduced, we all do, but we are still having absolutely horrific decisions being given with the technology. Hoping for improvements is again deluded when we are about 5/6 years into this shit.
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With the “glitches” in semi automated technology and absolute howler decisions like ours at the weekend it is time it is withdrawn and re-thought. Publicly with the involvement of refs, players and fans. I’m convinced that with proper thought a much better system could be devised
 
Pingu the Penguin said:
With the “glitches” in semi automated technology and absolute howler decisions like ours at the weekend it is time it is withdrawn and re-thought. Publicly with the involvement of refs, players and fans. I’m convinced that with proper thought a much better system could be devised
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Proper thought,don't hold your breath Pingu
 
Stephen230 said:
They’re not. Just some people like to imagine they are.
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And you know this with 100% absolute certainty, do you? (The answer to this is do you fuck)

You're as in the dark about the role and remit of VAR as the rest of us, and you've proven that in this thread alone, where you've asserted one thing only to be shown to be wrong by others doing a bit of digging.

It's all clouded in secrecy, and there's probably a good reason for that.

Can you explain to me why Shearer and his co-commentator are, as far as I've heard, the only two people who saw the incident, saw the replays and instantly came to the opposite conclusion to the rest of the watching world that "he's heading away from goal", and then, low and behold, that's what VAR geos with?

Coincidence?

Shearer's a WUM.
There's a lot of them about, or so it appears.
 
the-ecstacy-of-eight said:
And you know this with 100% absolute certainty, do you? (The answer to this is do you fuck)

You're as in the dark about the role and remit of VAR as the rest of us, and you've proven that in this thread alone, where you've asserted one thing only to be shown to be wrong by others doing a bit of digging.

It's all clouded in secrecy, and there's probably a good reason for that.

Can you explain to me why Shearer and his co-commentator are, as far as I've heard, the only two people who saw the incident, saw the replays and instantly came to the opposite conclusion to the rest of the watching world that "he's heading away from goal", and then, low and behold, that's what VAR geos with?

Coincidence?

Shearer's a WUM.
There's a lot of them about, or so it appears.
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Unsure if they are or aren't. They might be if they are watching from that feed. When the Bournemouth striker was sent off against the rags, Alan Smith said several times during commentary that they aren't looking at him slipping, nobody has recognised it. If they was listening, they ignored what was said then as he got sent off and then it was ultimately overturned
 
BlueHammer85 said:
exactly, VAR can aid a ref that's missed an incident and gives the ref a chance a second look. what's infuriating is when officials still come to the wrong decision despite it being clear on replay, what can I do about that?
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You can join us in calling it out for how badly it has negatively impacted the sport.
BlueHammer85 said:
I do still however 'endorse' VAR because I know without tech help then we get MORE farcical decisions, I don't want to see offside goals being allowed to stand, I don't want clear dives with zero contact all the time trying to dupe the ref and often does so etc. - Yes, despite VAR there is some rare examples, but all i really argue is for a ref to have a second look on something he has missed and that can only happen with VAR.
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The problem is these 'second looks' disrupt the game and then make any eventual decision that comes out of it that much more hard to accept or deal with. And it gives the impression of match fixing, whether true or not, it's a horrible look.
 
the-ecstacy-of-eight said:
And you know this with 100% absolute certainty, do you? (The answer to this is do you fuck)

You're as in the dark about the role and remit of VAR as the rest of us, and you've proven that in this thread alone, where you've asserted one thing only to be shown to be wrong by others doing a bit of digging.

It's all clouded in secrecy, and there's probably a good reason for that.

Can you explain to me why Shearer and his co-commentator are, as far as I've heard, the only two people who saw the incident, saw the replays and instantly came to the opposite conclusion to the rest of the watching world that "he's heading away from goal", and then, low and behold, that's what VAR geos with?

Coincidence?

Shearer's a WUM.
There's a lot of them about, or so it appears.
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No mate, I can’t prove that something didn’t happen. That would be impossible.

What I can do is consider the likelihood that it happened.

It is an absolute fundamental FIFA instruction that there must be no outside interference in the VAR booth.

To routinely have English VARs ignoring that rule would take a conspiracy involving pretty much everybody in the upper echelons of power within the various organisations of English football. The hundreds, if not thousands of people who are aware of it going on, would be sworn to secrecy. One person breaking ranks would risk every one of their livelihoods and probably their chance of them ever working in football again.

But they’re all prepared to take that risk because they are so desperate for the VARs to hear Gary Neville’s take on an incident before they make a decision?

I’d say the chances of that are so slim, it’s as close to zero as you can get.
 
BlueHammer85 said:
lino didn't also see Palace offside goal and that would have been awarded a goal without VAR, its not corruption its perhaps just a very tough ask however simple it looks on TV - officials getting basic wrong decisions has happened for decades, we either carry on accepting that and scrap VAR which is fine or we don't and look at ways so officials can get the vast majority of these basic decisions correct.
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At least before VAR they were allowed to do their job and put the flag up when they see an offside. Now they're not even allowed to do their job anymore.
 
TheBeautifulGame said:
The problem is these 'second looks' disrupt the game and then make any eventual decision that comes out of it that much more hard to accept or deal with. And it gives the impression of match fixing, whether true or not, it's a horrible look.
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In that case would you rather VAR sent the ref to the monitor as he missed the handball or not ?
 
TheBeautifulGame said:
At least before VAR they were allowed to do their job and put the flag up when they see an offside. Now they're not even allowed to do their job anymore.
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because they so often flag wrongly, that's the problem.
I would love a world we could get consistent perfect linos and do away with VAR obviously but they couldn't spot the hand ball or saturday or Palace being offside.
 
mancboy said:
Which is literally exactly what i said , the technology is not the problem, the technology works absolutely correctly, the idiots using the technology dont work correctly and that is the issue, it is called video ASSISTED ref and with the best will in the will you can give a complete moron all the assistance in the world and they will still be a complete moron, all VAR is doing is showing us in minute detail why they are either morons or bent or both.
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You either have a corrupt system or you don't. VAR was poorly designed, they didn't think it through. They thought it would work smoothly. They were wrong, and nearly every match day we get reminded again and again of how bad it is and how it never should have been implemented in the first place. You can say it's not the technology, that it's the people using it, but it's all the same. As if the technology working means anything for the greater good. The fact is that regardless of how well the technology works, decisions are being made subjectively through guesswork, and often the nature of the technology, however correctly it might work, can be interpreted in a multitude of ways. Slow-motion, for example, has led to more wrong decisions than ever before, because things always look worse (to the human) during slow motion, and they are using that to make decisions.
 
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