VAR Discussion Thread

[halfcenturyup]

Just a thought. What would be the implications of scrapping the offside rule altogether?

I am sure some buffoon at FIFA is looking at this right now: VAR has problems determining offside, let's just change the rules and have no offside. The reality is that the people who made the rules a century ago knew what they were doing and why. The people running the game now could take some lessons from them.

God, I hate what FIFA, UEFA and the PL have turned the game into, and I hate how they have made me feel about it.

This is my third post this year and in each of them I sound like Victor fucking Meldrew.

 

[surprisedbygrass]

Unless I am missing something it's just moving the mm offside measurement to the back instead of the front. So we will still have mm offside decisions, we will still have debates about tolerance and about the accuracy of the technology. We also make it more difficult for defenders to practice their art.

It's just another rule change being brought in because of the inability of VAR to deal with off-side and not because it will improve the game.

Ridiculous knee-jerk rule-making which ignores the obvious problem - off-side isn't a black and white decision that technology can solve efficiently. It's a human judgement that has been made reasonably accurately for more than a hundred years without technology other than a flag.

They don't want to re-referee the game but they are perfectly happy to needlessly change rules in a desperate attempt to improve VAR. And they won't. Because it's impossible.

Or maybe I am wrong, of course. It has been known :)

Tinker Tinker Tinker . VAR is beginning to feel like that dud piece of technology ( car / heat pump / washing machine ) that you keeps letting you down . The mechanics keep telling you "we just need to do this one more thing" or "change the programme" or add "this modification" but you're left stranded and cold and wearing dirty clothes shouting your head off .

One of the main reasons I like football is I understand the rules and can depend on them in a world where mostly rules are contingent and applied unevenly . I don't want to live full time in a dictatorship but for ninety minutes I submit as it's a salve to the chaos of real life .

These days going to a match I have a confused or outdated idea of the rules and am dependant on someone a couple of hundred miles away influencing the way I react to a game . Goal !!! Hold your breath until VAR clears it . Handball !!! Was I the only one to see that ? Offside !!! Apparently not as the player wasn't interfering with play. We know less about what's going on than Viewers at Home despite having paid more and sacrificed a large part of the day to be there .

Add to this the free for all afterwards with managers and players no longer Tight Lipped and Godlike after the match but shooting their mouths off at press conferences and on the socials . Didn't we roundly beat Forest away who put ten men behind the ball for the greater part of the game and excelled in the art of dirty tricks all match. Apparently not. We were lucky against them / Liverpool / Newcastle ......It's beginning to feel more like a soap opera every game . Chaos is the sole victor .

What I see at the game is no longer the truth , albeit a biased one , but my truth , seen with my own eyes and felt with my own emotions. The truth is a story created at and after the final whistle by mangers in the post match and by edited highlights of spotlighted controversies .

We can't get rid of VAR but for me and many match going fans it's changed the experience for the worse .

 

[Pingu the Penguin]

Why do they need to tinker with offsides? These are black and white objective decisions that tech can clearly get right. Aren’t they…..?

Basically it’s an admission that years worth of goals or non goals were wrongly decided by VAR.

Unless or until it works and can be shown to work it belongs nowhere near professional football matches

 

[heslops barnet]

Can’t understand that gaining an advantage can come down to mm or what size boots you’re wearing or if you have a short/long sleeved shirt……madness

 

[surprisedbygrass]

I am sure some buffoon at FIFA is looking at this right now: VAR has problems determining offside, let's just change the rules and have no offside. The reality is that the people who made the rules a century ago knew what they were doing and why. The people running the game now could take some lessons from them.

God, I hate what FIFA, UEFA and the PL have turned the game into, and I hate how they have made me feel about it.

This is my third post this year and in each of them I sound like Victor fucking Meldrew.

And I'm Mrs Meldrew ha ha

 

[Coljj]

Needs a 'Coaches Challenge' where they tell the 4th official and the ref is called over to review.

Everton would have got their penalty, Merino would got a *2nd yellow and Arsenal may be 1pt behind us with one more game played. It would make it a lot harder for VAR to ignore the blatantly obvious whenever they feel like it.

*VAR needs to be able to recommend issuing 2nd yellows in real-time over comms from next season.