VAR (PL introduction 2019)

Is VAR used when a goalkeeper saves a penalty to check if goalkeeper has infringed rules?

Is VAR not used in this instance because a goal has not been scored and doesnt fall within

any other VAR criteria? eg penalty has not been awarded as it had already been awarded?

Is VAR used if referee awards a goal after penalty taken, eg double hit by penalty taker or

penalty taker stops their forward movement etc. Eg as goal has been scored it falls within

one of VAR criteria?
 
gingerprince said:
Is VAR used when a goalkeeper saves a penalty to check if goalkeeper has infringed rules?

Is VAR not used in this instance because a goal has not been scored and doesnt fall within

any other VAR criteria? eg penalty has not been awarded as it had already been awarded?

Is VAR used if referee awards a goal after penalty taken, eg double hit by penalty taker or

penalty taker stops their forward movement etc. Eg as goal has been scored it falls within

one of VAR criteria?
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Depends.
 
abu13 said:
Just been listening to a section of Talk Sport where they have been discussing the use of VAR in the Premier League next season, apparently there has been a big meeting today to clarify some of the issues. They had this "expert" on to explain it all and there were a couple of interesting points.
1. Through the trials of VAR the linesmen have been encourged to keep their flag down and allow VAR to review the decision if it led to a goal, this will no longer be the case next year. Why?
2. This is where it gets interesting, the guy claimed that when a decision goes to VAR it will be displayed on the big screen that an incident is under review, once reviewed the decision will then be put up again on the screens. ( all good to this point) The big news is that the incident will then be shown on the screen for all the fans to see, very similar to what you would see on Sky or BT.

All sounds very promising doesn't it.
Unfortuantly there are only 18 of the 20 clubs in the Premier league that have screens suitable to show these replays, and two clubs that won't be able to offer this video proof to the fans.

Anyone fancy guessing which 2 clubs can't accomodate the large screens?

Yep, you guessed it the Rags and the Red Dippers.
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They can find room for a extra 10,000 seats though!
Fucking state of it!
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dickie davies said:
Just had a chat with my brother who lives in Germany
German football has been using VAR this season and in the last week there's been two scandalous decisions
German cup semi, Bayern vs Bremen. The ref awarded a pen for Bayern that definitely wasn't a pen and VAR didn't intervene.
After the game, even the Bayern players said it wasn't a penalty and the Bremen Head coach saying he could have lived with the decision if there was no VAR

Yesterday, penalty for handball awarded to Leipzig, when the ball clearly hits a Freiburg player on the chest. Again no VAR intervention
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So basically what we have now without VAR except on a much larger scale.
 
Bert Trautmann's Parachute said:
Thanks to VAR we will never experience an Aguero moment again. Just imagine something similar happens next season. I guarantee that no one will be getting excited (including the players) as we all wait to see what VAR has to say. And you can guarantee that it'll be used automatically in that situation. In fact, I can see it draining all of the emotion out of the game in the end as live football slowly morphs into TV entertainment, with TV companies running adds whilst VAR is sorting out a decision. Perhaps the adds will be bookies saying get 2-1 that the decision will be reversed.
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This was said before the World Cup, instead it was one of the most exciting tournaments in recent history, VAR added to that.
 
There is no reason i can find for them not installing big screens at the swamp and dippers,they can manipulate VAR as much as they like if no-one can see it
 
Xhavenjoe said:
I think VAR is good for offsides and things like the Son end line decision. Where it appears to be poor is the handball decisions. Nearly every handball seems to be contentious with no one sure what the right decision should be.
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That’s the same without VAR.
At least if it’s a clear handball and the ref has missed it we get a correct outcome, not a ref waving it away because he didn’t see it.
 
BlueHammer85 said:
That’s the same without VAR.
At least if it’s a clear handball and the ref has missed it we get a correct outcome, not a ref waving it away because he didn’t see it.
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Erm in the CL they didn't show the ref the behind the goal angle that showed the handball,it seems VAR have control over what the ref sees
 
BlueHammer85 said:
This was said before the World Cup, instead it was one of the most exciting tournaments in recent history, VAR added to that.
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I'm talking about the live game. I was in the stadium for the Spurs game in the CL and it was the worst feeling ever when that goal was ruled out. And next season, after decision after decision has been referred to VAR no one will expect an Aguero-type situation not to be referred to VAR. It'll kill the live game.
 
Bert Trautmann's Parachute said:
I'm talking about the live game. I was in the stadium for the Spurs game in the CL and it was the worst feeling ever when that goal was ruled out. And next season, after decision after decision has been referred to VAR no one will expect an Aguero-type situation not to be referred to VAR. It'll kill the live game.
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But surely it’s the worst feeling when a goal has been scored by a blatant offside or a blatant handball by officials not having a clue with the speed of the game.
It’s a travesty we’ve put up with it this long and at very long last we’re implementing ways to reduce to errors - the odd one will occur and will rightly be blown out of proportion. But they will always be relative to what we have put up with.
There’s plenty of times now when a teams scored, for fans to celebrate only for a flag to go up or the ref to point something out. We still celebrate.
 
VAR being shown on screens is a massive boost for transparency and something many have been screaming about , I suspect the moaners will now find something else to knock it.
 
BlueHammer85 said:
VAR being shown on screens is a massive boost for transparency and something many have been screaming about , I suspect the moaners will now find something else to knock it.
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VAR would be fine if it was an instant decision and everything was considered eg The encroachment when Sergio missed the pen and it was cleared by a player who was two yards in the box. The decision making is too long and to watch a game where 10mins is taken up by VAR studies is awful, spoils the flow of the game and the entertainment From what I’ve seen of VAR it is getting as many wrong as it it changes the wrong decision of the live ref The decision to give Switzerland a pen was another example of a wrong decision add to the Rag pen v PSG the pen v Otto the lack of showing angle to disallowed the Lorrente handball I also have doubts about deciding an offside by mm when a line is used to decide l,drawn on an image generated from a camera that is at an angle, with no certainty of when a ball was kicked
 
I've probably missed this, however, when a decision is referred to VAR, does the ref stop his watch? If so, and the decision is the opposite to that of the original decision, does the ref reset the watch to the time at when the insident took place or at the point when VAR is brought in to look at?
Or is it simply down to the refs discression?
At Schalke away the first penalty insident happened in 31st min, decision made in 34th and goal recored in 38th (I think?), I cannot recall 7 mins plus being played in the first half of injury time.
Though VAR is here I have a feeling that it may be used as a time wasting tactic in time. Hope I'm wrong
 
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