Veganism

[vonkeynotvenky]

Just watched Ducks Quacks Don't Echo.

Plants protect themselves from being eaten. When they sense that insects are eating them the release chemicals of a nasty taste.

you bastards

Potatoes produce a yum yum eat me kind of chemical.

 

[urban genie]

I watched this & couldn't argue with any of it. I've not consumed any kind of animal product since.

I just watched that and although very well argued, did nothing to change my omnivore ways.

 

[smudgedj]

Potatoes produce a yum yum eat me kind of chemical.

You need to be careful with them fuckers :

 

[MellowJoe]

Plants aren't subjects of experience. They have no brains, no nervous system, so there is no need to worry about eating them, no need to nudge in some sort of animism.

 

[Ancient Citizen]

Do vegans wear silk?

I've seen young girls in carpet factories in Turkey going through the whole process, utterly fascinating.
Silk worms only eat mulberry leaves, apparently, and they're boiled alive to halt development, so the silk can be
harvested. A marvellous material is silk, ancient Chinese warriors, and Mongols used silk underwear as protection
against arrows.
Anyway, the bacon sarnies are nearly ready.

 

[urban genie]

Plants aren't subjects of experience. They have no brains, no nervous system, so there is no need to worry about eating them, no need to nudge in some sort of animism.

Actually some research suggests they do smell, hear and have some sense of perception, making them a living thing, just because they ain't fluffy and able to be controled as a pet doesn't mean they are not murdered by vegans just as much as vegans consider omnivores murder animals.

Both animals and plants are alive eating either is killing a living thing, but we need to eat to live, It's kiling animals for sport that is wrong.

 

[MellowJoe]

Actually some research suggests they do smell, hear and have some sense of perception, making them a living thing, just because they ain't fluffy and able to be controled as a pet doesn't mean they are not murdered by vegans just as much as vegans consider omnivores murder animals.

Both animals and plants are alive eating either is killing a living thing, but we need to eat to live, It's kiling animals for sport that is wrong.

They are living organisms in a biological sense. The key distinctions are that they can't feel pain, and they're not conscious (not subjects of experience). We have absolutely no reason to give plants ethical consideration. Throwing around the word 'murder' is completely unwarranted.

 

[urban genie]

They are living organisms in a biological sense. The key distinctions are that they can't feel pain, and they're not conscious (not subjects of experience). We have absolutely no reason to give plants ethical consideration. Throwing around the word 'murder' is completely unwarranted.

Why there are poster on bus stops round town calling meat eaters butcherers, killers, abusers, and it's true that meat eaters are eating a former living organism, plants are also living organisms.

Each to their own imho if you don't want to eat meat or animal products then don't, if you do then do, but make sure it's properly farmed in a humane way and also killed properly not with suffering.

But that's each persons choice I would never look at someone detrementally because they eat chicken or lamb etc.

 

[Stuuuuuu]

The problem with that is that no animal is farmed in a humane way or killed without suffering.

 

[PannickAtTheDisco]

Well I did my bit for the planet and mankind by having roast beef for lunch, that's one less farting cow on the planet.

You should thank me MellowJoe.