Vincent Kompany injuries

[Blue Llama]

Oh sorry Berkshire I see what you did there. You were asking about 3 seasons ago. Can I assume that you believe that every Injury Vinny has had since then is all the fault of Belgium and that one international match?

 

[Phil1]

No just a Manchester City fan,who do you support by the way.

The rags.

 

[BerkshireBlue]

Oh sorry Berkshire I see what you did there. You were asking about 3 seasons ago. Can I assume that you believe that every Injury Vinny has had since then is all the fault of Belgium and that one international match?

Pretty much as he would have adapted the way he runs over concern that he might injury the same calf which puts extra pressure on other sections of the body. You can read about it in the sports science journals if you want

 

[ono]

Both played well on the whole, I thought , but Fern was exceprional.

Strange how that has always been his accepted role at City, yet at Shakhtar, he had a Gareth Barry type character who sat behind him doing that job & Fern was one of the best in Europe, in a different role.

That's for a different thread though.

Yes to be honest I think he is much more than a holder. I remember his performance against Chelsea a few years ago for Shaktar and he was unreal....controlled the game. Yes been less rash this season so far to be honest. I think the team are pressing correctly now as a whole. Just need to stop Otamendi from being so rash now. Easier said than done haha.

 

[Neville Kneville]

Yes to be honest I think he is much more than a holder. I remember his performance against Chelsea a few years ago for Shaktar and he was unreal....controlled the game. Yes been less rash this season so far to be honest. I think the team are pressing correctly now as a whole. Just need to stop Otamendi from being so rash now. Easier said than done haha.

Just having more athletes in the team & more people around him in the middle of the pitch helps Fern I think.

Thank fuck this manager can see that.

I thought Otta was the best I've ever seen him today apart from the mental, unfathomable moments.

 

[franksinatra]

Just having more athletes in the team & more people around him in the middle of the pitch helps Fern I think.

Thank fuck this manager can see that.

I thought Otta was the best I've ever seen him today apart from the mental, unfathomable moments.

Its a real team effort at the minute defensively, starting from the front and the press and the midfield working in packs to close the space.

Watching Barca I never thought individually Mascherano was the greatest defender but it was hardly noticeable in that team. Similarly the work of this team, alongside improved individual performances, makes us look much better defensively.

 

[Neville Kneville]

Its a real team effort at the minute defensively, starting from the front and the press and the midfield working in packs to close the space.

Watching Barca I never thought individually Mascherano was the greatest defender but it was hardly noticeable in that team. Similarly the work of this team, alongside improved individual performances, makes us look much better defensively.

Absolutely but when that fails, which it always will during a game, the cbs have to be on it.

I've never thought Piquet was a great defender either tbh but he's good at tidying. And I'm sure Boateng isn't great but same thing.

That's where we have been basically crap for several years imo & Otamendi/Stones made it worse rather than better, for different reasons.

But this season, Stones has been playing as if he knows he's a cb & will never be Beckenbauer & Otamendi in recent times seems as if he's realised he needs to start using his brain & that enthusiam alone won't work.

He actually 'read' stuff today when others had lapsed, rather than being the last one to know.

 

[franksinatra]

Absolutely but when that fails, which it always will during a game, the cbs have to be on it.

I've never thought Piquet was a great defender either tbh but he's good at tidying. And I'm sure Boateng isn't great but same thing.

That's where we have been basically crap for several years imo & Otamendi/Stones made it worse rather than better, for different reasons.

But this season, Stones has been playing as if he knows he's a cb & will never be Beckenbauer & Otamendi in recent times seems as if he's realised he needs to start using his brain & that enthusiam alone won't work.

He actually 'read' stuff today when others had lapsed, rather than being the last one to know.

Yes I agree with that. Ota, besides the ridiculous foul late on, seemed more focused and stayed on his feet and full credit for the pass he played to De Bruyne for the goal.

I could not imagine our two centre halfs being as durable as say the Chelsea centre backs facing such an onslaught, but collectively we have been excellent at defending from the front today and as you say when required the two CBs played well also.

 

[Neville Kneville]

Yes I agree with that. Ota, besides the ridiculous foul late on, seemed more focused and stayed on his feet and full credit for the pass he played to De Bruyne for the goal.

I could not imagine our two centre halfs being as durable as say the Chelsea centre backs facing such an onslaught, but collectively we have been excellent at defending from the front today and as you say when required the two CBs played well also.

Yes I agree too. We saw when Morata tried a few tricks v Stones, JS was chasing shadows but he & Walker were able to rescue it.

You can't imagne under 90 mins of that, our cbs would cope like Chelsea's did, but if we had Chelsea's defenders, we would not get out of our own penalty area in possession.

Which it seems England have opted for, as our future of football, with Cahill & Jones.

 

[franksinatra]

Yes I agree too. We saw when Morata tried a few tricks v Stones, JS was chasing shadows but he & Walker were able to rescue it.

You can't imagne under 90 mins of that, our cbs would cope like Chelsea's did, but if we had Chelsea's defenders, we would not get out of our own penalty area in possession.

Which it seems England have opted for, as our future of football, with Cahill & Jones.

That is the flip side of the coin and a point many people, including myself, have stuggled with at the outset.

Now we have a more than competent keeper and a team pressing from the front you can see the value given by a keeper who can knock the ball out accurately, play a long ball and is comfortable sniffing out danger on the edge of his box like a sweeper. Similarly the same goes for the CBs and Ota's ball through the lines to KDB perfectly illustrates this. Individually they may not be the best defenders, in the more traditional sense, but arguably the trade off now seems worthwhile having decent footballers back there to assist in the domination of the football.