Waco and the Manchester connection

[allan harper]

Something fishy about the whole thing, wouldn't throw that accusation around though.

Certainly us fishy.

The most serious question remaining is: Did government agents fire shots into the compound on April 19?

Caddell thinks that they did. This is one of the main contentions of the suit he has brought on behalf of the victims and family members. "The government was responsible for gunfire on April 19," he says. This gunfire "either killed Davidians or pinned them down, so that they could not escape the fire."

The attorney general and the FBI as a whole have consistently maintained the government did not fire a single shot that day.

Caddell says that the proof lies in video shot by a camera aboard an FBI aircraft, a het-detecting eye in the sky known as a "forward-looking infrared." Attorney Caddell believes it tells the story.

"What we see on numerous occasions," says Caddell, referring to the videotape, "is an ongoing gun battle between government forces and the Davidians."

Caddell claims that the flashes of heat recorded by the sensitive camera are evidence of someone shooting into the compound in response to Davidian gunfire. They began late in the morning and continued until a little after noon.

"You continue to see gunfire at various times from behind that tank directed primarily at the Davidian gun positions here and in the tower and also into this dining room area," he says.

But the government says that Caddell's theory is impossible.

As evidence, Sage points to an aerial photograph that he says was taken within seconds of a flash that shows no one on the ground doing any shooting.

He says the still frame enlargement of the infrared tape makes the same point. "There is nobody there," Sage says.

Sage is not sure what caused the flashes, he says. "My layman's view is that it's probably water or moisture that's reflecting sunlight," he says. "I can't tell you as an expert. Because I am not one. But I can tell you what it's not. It's not gunshots.

 

[Fame Monster]

That was interesting. I hadn't realised he was one of 6 Mancs that survived, but I do remember watching the news and hoping beyond hope he hadn't died.

I must admit I rewrote the original message a couple of times cos I input the whole querying of religion aspect we spoke on and I didn't want it sounding like he'd lost the plot.

We talked quite a lot on religion, but even I got worn down by the amount of questions.

Do you know how he got into it?

 

[aguero93:20]

Certainly us fishy.

The most serious question remaining is: Did government agents fire shots into the compound on April 19?

Caddell thinks that they did. This is one of the main contentions of the suit he has brought on behalf of the victims and family members. "The government was responsible for gunfire on April 19," he says. This gunfire "either killed Davidians or pinned them down, so that they could not escape the fire."

The attorney general and the FBI as a whole have consistently maintained the government did not fire a single shot that day.

Caddell says that the proof lies in video shot by a camera aboard an FBI aircraft, a het-detecting eye in the sky known as a "forward-looking infrared." Attorney Caddell believes it tells the story.

"What we see on numerous occasions," says Caddell, referring to the videotape, "is an ongoing gun battle between government forces and the Davidians."

Caddell claims that the flashes of heat recorded by the sensitive camera are evidence of someone shooting into the compound in response to Davidian gunfire. They began late in the morning and continued until a little after noon.

"You continue to see gunfire at various times from behind that tank directed primarily at the Davidian gun positions here and in the tower and also into this dining room area," he says.

But the government says that Caddell's theory is impossible.

As evidence, Sage points to an aerial photograph that he says was taken within seconds of a flash that shows no one on the ground doing any shooting.

He says the still frame enlargement of the infrared tape makes the same point. "There is nobody there," Sage says.

Sage is not sure what caused the flashes, he says. "My layman's view is that it's probably water or moisture that's reflecting sunlight," he says. "I can't tell you as an expert. Because I am not one. But I can tell you what it's not. It's not gunshots.

Can't comment on that mate tbh. Difficult to believe that many people were self destructive though.

 

[Bill Walker]

My wife was working at Manchester Eye Hospital at the time and one of her colleagues was a Koresh follower, she went over there during holidays and took her kids.
I believe they all died that day. I dont know her name but will ask Mrs N when she gets home.

 

[PinkFinal]

BBC have a podcast about Waco examining the British \ Manchester link
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p06qcxz9

 

[malg]

Just read it, it says: The FBI's attempt to release the cult members ended in a horrific fireball.







Doesn't mention how they were Mudered by the ATF.

Bill Hicks would approve this post.

 

[Bigga]

Do you know how he got into it?

I have no clue, really.

He clammed up about it when we used to speak.

The only coincidental connection to the event for me, was that we were both signed to Anita Roddick's daughter's music studio in Oldham. Proper rich kid with f*ck around money who was really into my friend's music ideas (he was more pop than I ever would have been!).

Anyway, he ended up recording and spending time up in Oldham, so it could have been linked?

Who knows.

 

[allan harper]

Bill Hicks would approve this post.

'would have'

Too many cigs or did he get knocked off!

 

[Metalartin]

From the comments someone linked to this:



It could be fake(or mis-represented shall we say) but it's very suspect with video tapes and reports going missing.

 

[Fame Monster]

There's a good documentary that covers the Waco conspiracy theory called Oklahoma on Netflix.