Was Roy Keane overrated?

[GaudinoMotors]

Was good - but nowhere near Souness class.

 

[Kippax Street 1880]

Controversial opinion alert coming up but for me, the biggest crime with the Haaland Snr assault wasn’t the tackle itself, but the utter fucking shithouse behaviour of Alfie’s so called teammates. Not one of them went near Keane afterwards. Not one.
If one of ours had done that to Beckham or Scholes, Keane would have broken their legs before they had chance to get sent off.
Proper captain, best central midfielder of his generation.
Our team in those days was full to the brim of likeable cowards.

I've always thought that myself, Shame Andy Morrison was on the bench as he wouldn't have stood for it.

 

[LangleyBlue1970]

Controversial opinion alert coming up but for me, the biggest crime with the Haaland Snr assault wasn’t the tackle itself, but the utter fucking shithouse behaviour of Alfie’s so called teammates. Not one of them went near Keane afterwards. Not one.
If one of ours had done that to Beckham or Scholes, Keane would have broken their legs before they had chance to get sent off.
Proper captain, best central midfielder of his generation.
Our team in those days was full to the brim of likeable cowards.

That’s a great post to be fair. Imagine Haaland Jnr now? He’s right at it when there’s any beef against our players.

 

[TShed]

He’s a dog wanking **** pal

Like the use of the word “pal” when responding about the Dog wanking **** very appropriate

 

[Bantamgaz]

They had competition from Arsenal for about 3 years maximum.

And after Arsenal went unbeaten, the next season they went to OT and we saw the most blatant cheating done by a referee we've ever seen. That game was pure corruption. See my original "cheated" comment.

You cannot believe how bad he was that day

 

[Charlesfarsbar]

He was a great player for united but it’s a different era and you have to understand the context which he’s being judged

The premier league was probably only the third or fourth best league in Europe back then and united underperformed in the champions league based on their dominance in England, they only reached the CL final once in his whole career there

That whole period for united is overrated , only having Arsenal as a challenger from 98-04

Compare that to our era, where we’ve had at least three other teams challenging us for the title and we have been very good in Europe as well

He wouldn’t get in our first xi now but he’d be a decent backup for Rodri

 

[Paul1970]

Great player and very underrated as was David batty aswell . Every team needs a destroyer to go about their business round the half way circle .

 

[KS55]

To be fair I think Scholes was a genuinely skilled technical footballer. Beckham was overrated, Giggs' ability was 99 percent due to being unusually fast for a footballer in his generation.

Giggs used to keep fit by jumping over the back fence of other people’s gardens.

 

[Kazzydeyna]

Was good - but nowhere near Souness class.

Souness was an animal. (In a good way). I’d love him in our side but he wouldnt get past the ten minute mark in any game these days sadly

 

[Bantamgaz]

That rag v dipper rivalry is way overrated. Have they ever went neck and neck in a title race.

Its more to do with the Cities rather than the teams

Does anyone recall Liverpool or United really going hell for leather in a title race from the 1970s onwards ?????
Maybe the odd time but its normally petered out with a month or so to go so apart from the odd finals so its simply down to the Cities and there histories than the actual teams

Still its the english media who build it up for what its supposed to be the biggest game ever in history where one side hasnt won a title in 12 years and the other winning 2 in the last 35 but hey lets not let facts get in the way

 

[KDBPLGOAT]

Souness was not clearly better footballer than Keane imo, Keane was a top top player just like Souness, Roy’s first time passing was insane. Prime Rodri is the only holding midfielder that was definitely better than prime Roy Keane in English football history. I will say this though, in the late 90s and early 2000s, Redondo and Effenberg were definitely better than Keane.

 

[OnlyOneUweRosler]

As a holding/defensive midfielder, Patrick Viera was better, as was Ngolo Kante.

 

[Scaring Europe to Death]

He was an effective and hugely influential player at a time when players could get away with a bit of nastiness (the last of whom was probably Gerrard)

I don't think he was so much overrated as somebody who was so obsessed with winning that he struggled to enjoy the moment.
You only have to look at his reaction when walking off the pitch after Ireland's momentous victory over Holland to appreciate that he had issues.

 

[WT86]

I don't think he's overrated generally. I do think he overrates himself, as he seems to feel entitled to criticize anything that moves when his CV is "very good footballer, failed manager, arguably the tallest midget among the big TV pundits." You'd think he cured cancer from the way he goes on.

 

[TFC]

Lets be honest, we'd have loved a Roy Keane (type player) in our midfield back in those days. Still a **** for the Alfie incident though.

 

[Trevor Morley's Tache]

Like the use of the word “pal” when responding about the Dog wanking **** very appropriate

That's what I was thinking chum.

 

[Gareth Barry Conlon]

Souness was an animal. (In a good way). I’d love him in our side but he wouldnt get past the ten minute mark in any game these days sadly

Players like Souness and Keane wouldn't survive with modern refs and var in the same way Elvis didn't survive extra large big mac meals.

They were epic players of their era but the game changed.

 

[Kazzydeyna]

Players like Souness and Keane wouldn't survive with modern refs and var in the same way Elvis didn't survive extra large big mac meals.

They were epic players of their era but the game changed.

Brilliant.

 

[Kippax Street 1880]

I don't think he's overrated generally. I do think he overrates himself, as he seems to feel entitled to criticize anything that moves when his CV is "very good footballer, failed manager, arguably the tallest midget among the big TV pundits." You'd think he cured cancer from the way he goes on.

He did get Sunderland promoted in fairness, I don't think the modern day footballer is really suited to a bit of Roy Keane man management. He might actually have more success now if he returned as he seems to have mellowed out a bit.

 

[J.G.Blue.]

He was a great player for united but it’s a different era and you have to understand the context which he’s being judged

The premier league was probably only the third or fourth best league in Europe back then and united underperformed in the champions league based on their dominance in England, they only reached the CL final once in his whole career there

That whole period for united is overrated , only having Arsenal as a challenger from 98-04

Compare that to our era, where we’ve had at least three other teams challenging us for the title and we have been very good in Europe as well

He wouldn’t get in our first xi now but he’d be a decent backup for Rodri

Plus we didnt ever have the refs "Helping" us along like the rags did all through there success :-)