davelyncooper
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Lets get Jaap Stam out of retirement.......he is only 37 and has to be better thet fookin Upson
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We will not finish top 6...
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Paulmcfc2703 said:the issue city have is the players at the top top end of the market are not interest in city at the moment eg terry, torres, puyol. We need to buy the players the next level down this is where the likes of lescott and Toure are at. The prices we are going to are always going to be over the market value as we have the title of 'richest team in the world' which will mean teams will try to exploit us.
So look elsewhere. Look Bosmans, look abroad. Take an educated punt on a kid coming in and making an impact straight away.
Paulmcfc2703
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there are no quality defenders on a bosman. I would like us to look abroad however i believe Hughes is right in trying to find a decent leader who is accustomed to the league ie Toure.moomba said:Paulmcfc2703 said:the issue city have is the players at the top top end of the market are not interest in city at the moment eg terry, torres, puyol. We need to buy the players the next level down this is where the likes of lescott and Toure are at. The prices we are going to are always going to be over the market value as we have the title of 'richest team in the world' which will mean teams will try to exploit us.
So look elsewhere. Look Bosmans, look abroad. Take an educated punt on a kid coming in and making an impact straight away.
As for lescott if Everton are taking the piss we should look abroad for a replacement as i feel there is no one else in the prem of the quality we need and are capable of getting. I would like us to go back to Hamburg and sign Jerome Boateng as he was outstanding in the 2 games we played against them and is only 20.
johnmc
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Paulmcfc2703 said:there are no quality defenders on a bosman. I would like us to look abroad however i believe Hughes is right in trying to find a decent leader who is accustomed to the league ie Toure.moomba said:So look elsewhere. Look Bosmans, look abroad. Take an educated punt on a kid coming in and making an impact straight away.
As for lescott if Everton are taking the piss we should look abroad for a replacement as i feel there is no one else in the prem of the quality we need and are capable of getting. I would like us to go back to Hamburg and sign Jerome Boateng as he was outstanding in the 2 games we played against them and is only 20.
How many top defenders are there at 20 years of age? Think they need to be nutured a bit just like goalkeepers. And I can't remember the kid to be fair, but he wasn't up against much.
Players are out there that don't cost the ridiculous fees being touted at the moment. They may be unproven, come from clubs abroad or need a bit of development. But I'd back Wenger, Moyes and Zola to come up with better players with the money we'd give for Toure, Lescott and Upson. And they'd probably have a bit more left over for improving the rest of the squad as well.
Might just be that I don't rate the above three as highly as you do, but I think all would be easily replaceable at their clubs. Maybe Lescott the hardest, but we're talking a lot of money for him and we shouldn't forget that Moyes wouldn't have spent a whole lot more than £10m putting his entire back 4 together.
But not in the current market. Everton and Arsenal have huge debts to pay down - less than half the money they bring in will be given to spend on transfers. Arsenal want Huntellar but they cant afford his wages and Ac Milan want him.
This is the problem. West Ham are basically owned by the Icelandic goverment now - and they are effectively insolvent. All they want to do is get as much back for West Ham as possible. You think Zola will see any more than a few coppers from the sale of Upson ?
It will be very hard for them to replace like for like forget the fees its the wages they cant afford. Unless they can pick out players from the lower leagues or europe. Yes they have done it before but Everton couldnt even get a championship player with 40 games under his belt recently thats the degree to which they are struggling.
Personally I believe the players we are bringing in have greatly improved what we already have. Plus we have moved out a load of dead wood. Providing we get in the defenders we have been linked with and keep the quality we already have we should be a top 6 side this season. If we are not in 12 months time its down to Hughes and he will have to go.
We already have much better squads than Villa, Everton and Spurs overall.
Paulmcfc2703
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i never meant a 1st choice john i was a bit vague. I meant on the assumption that we are in the market for 3 centre halfs.johnmc said:Paulmcfc2703 said:there are no quality defenders on a bosman. I would like us to look abroad however i believe Hughes is right in trying to find a decent leader who is accustomed to the league ie Toure.
As for lescott if Everton are taking the piss we should look abroad for a replacement as i feel there is no one else in the prem of the quality we need and are capable of getting. I would like us to go back to Hamburg and sign Jerome Boateng as he was outstanding in the 2 games we played against them and is only 20.
How many top defenders are there at 20 years of age? Think they need to be nutured a bit just like goalkeepers. And I can't remember the kid to be fair, but he wasn't up against much.
I think we will finish 7th. Nothing to do with whoever we get in at the back, I just can't see our usual inconsistant performances ending this season. I think Hughes deserves his shot at getting us in the top 6 but I don't think he'll crack it this season or be around to try again the season after. Don't get me wrong, I'd be delighted if he could do it and hope he proves me wrong... but I have doubts about his ability to get a team performing to a top 6 / top 4 standard week in week out. Seen far too many shocking performances under him, losing against teams we should have rolled over. Better quality players just means we should be rolling over teams of a higher standard now but if you can't do it at a lower level...
Cynical mondays!
Cynical mondays!
johnmc
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Paulmcfc2703 said:i never meant a 1st choice john i was a bit vague. I meant on the assumption that we are in the market for 3 centre halfs.
Yeah in that case get him in. All for buying the up and coming youngsters.
Snoogy said:I think we will finish 7th. Nothing to do with whoever we get in at the back, I just can't see our usual inconsistant performances ending this season.
Cynical mondays!
So Ade, Tevez, Barry, Santa Cruz, Tourre and Lescott will make no difference to next season in terms of consistency? This is what you are giving us to understand? And Robhino, Kompany, Given, Zab, Weiss, Onuoho, and Superman will be no more effective with better players around them than they were last year?
What a rag.