Weight loss jabs

Im glad ur family and everybody u know has never suffered with addiction issues , i mean its amazing the millions that do cant just shake themselves out of it, wonder why they hadnt thought of it, then again millions swerve having a brain and the brave souls survive, you are proof of this
I was 17 stone, had a heart attack and a triple bypass - i stopped fkn gorging myself and it was fkn hard, I'm now 13 stone and did the Manchester Blackpool bike ride in under three hours, at the age of 55, you know fuck all about me or my family - wind your fkn neck in
 
I was 17 stone, had a heart attack and a triple bypass - i stopped fkn gorging myself and it was fkn hard, I'm now 13 stone and did the Manchester Blackpool bike rode in under three hours, at the age of 55, you know fuck all about me or my family - wind your fkn neck in
I thank god that i dont even tho you sound like such a pleasant chap
 
Im sure you are tired at your age, go get your ovaltine
"I'm" and "Ovaltine" - you're welcome - seems youth is no advantage when it comes to speaking your own language. NB: I've kindly overlooked your previous errors.
 
If it saves money treating much more significant and expensive problems related to weight, I don't know why anyone would have a problem with this.

Weight loss obviously isn't easy for all, otherwise we wouldn't have the problems we have. People saying "just don't eat as much", or "just go to the gym" better hope that the pill stopping people from being a pig ignorant moron becomes available on the NHS soon.
 
also, that doesn't signify tiredness, it signifies boredom - but then again, you know that don't you, you little scamp?
Yes, i do know that you are very boring but that is okay you can just tell yourself that you're not and that will make it okay, thank you for correcting my spelling and grammar im sure it made you feel incredibly superior for a few seconds, now if you could just correct yourself of the idiotic notion tthat all forms of addiction can be cured by just stopping it then all would be okay. If not you could consult the numerous peer reviewed papers by consumate medical professionals talking about addiction and its devastating affects, or do you know better than them also?
 
Yes, i do know that you are very boring but that is okay you can just tell yourself that you're not and that will make it okay, thank you for correcting my spelling and grammar im sure it made you feel incredibly superior for a few seconds, now if you could just correct yourself of the idiotic notion that all addiction that all forms of addiction can be cured by just stopping it then all would be okay. If not you could consult the numerous peer reviewed papers by consumate medical professionals talking about addiction and its devastating affects, or do you know better than them also?
I never said that "all forms of addiction can be cured by just stopping it then all would be okay", but then again, you know that already - twist it to your absolutist narrative all you want, you're still wrong - and feeling "incredibly superior to you"? - not really, I'd set the bar a little higher, darling.

*btw consummate (among many others) - but if you can't be arsed making the effort to correct your failings, I now totally understand your take on things - thanks for helping.
 
Chippy tea again tonight chubster?
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Seven pages of mixed thoughts on the jab or is the anger aimed at the NHS for prescribing it.
Most people I know who have taken it including myself pay privately and have gone through a vetting process and disclosed it to their doctors.
I started just 8 week's ago and down around 20 lbs and will probably get down another 20 before looking at maintenance options.
Played senior football for 20+ years and always around 90kg but after working 40 year's of shift work I retired up at 115 kg so looking at a target of 90kg again.
Anyway, since starting my cholesterol is down so not going on stations that doctor was pushing for and blood pressure down in decent range but still on the 5mg for now.
Stopped taking an antibiotic that I've been on for years for a skin complaint that has disappeared ( could be caused by something I was eating but not identified).
So I guess I'm saving the NHS around £50 a month and I think they are winning by me paying private for my jab.
Not trying to antagonize the run jump and skip people but I have plenty of mates who have had hips and knees changed so these need NHS help.
I already resigned myself that I will happily jab for the rest of my life if I can be 90kg rather than 115 and if I get an extra couple of years then my extra pension will cover it.
 
Seven pages of mixed thoughts on the jab or is the anger aimed at the NHS for prescribing it.
Most people I know who have taken it including myself pay privately and have gone through a vetting process and disclosed it to their doctors.
I started just 8 week's ago and down around 20 lbs and will probably get down another 20 before looking at maintenance options.
Played senior football for 20+ years and always around 90kg but after working 40 year's of shift work I retired up at 115 kg so looking at a target of 90kg again.
Anyway, since starting my cholesterol is down so not going on stations that doctor was pushing for and blood pressure down in decent range but still on the 5mg for now.
Stopped taking an antibiotic that I've been on for years for a skin complaint that has disappeared ( could be caused by something I was eating but not identified).
So I guess I'm saving the NHS around £50 a month and I think they are winning by me paying private for my jab.
Not trying to antagonize the run jump and skip people but I have plenty of mates who have had hips and knees changed so these need NHS help.
I already resigned myself that I will happily jab for the rest of my life if I can be 90kg rather than 115 and if I get an extra couple of years then my extra pension will cover it.
good for you - some people need this help and benefit from it (fair play to them) - many could help themselves more imho - apparently this is not the case according to some - they are wrong
 
I've been reading this thread, and I need to push back on the "just eat less and exercise more" narrative. Honestly, if it were that simple, none of us would be here discussing this. Yes, I am a fat fuck, Yes, my BMI has been up and down like a tart's drawers. Unless you've lived it, you'll struggle to understand it.

For so many of us, it's NOT a lack of willpower. That's a harmful myth that overlooks the complexities of biology and our modern food environment. For the hard of thinking or understanding:
  • It's NOT a willpower problem. The idea that people "just need more willpower" completely misunderstands how our bodies regulate weight. We're fighting against powerful biological signals, not just a craving. Many of us have been "serial dieters" our entire lives, only to experience the crushing disappointment of the "bounce back." This isn't a moral failing. Crucially, these medications often reduce what's known as "food noise," quieting the constant, intrusive thoughts about eating that many people experience. Go look at the contestants on "The Biggest Loser" if you want to see bounceback in action.
  • The UPF epidemic is real. We are surrounded by highly palatable, addictive Ultra-Processed Foods (UPF) designed to override our natural satiety signals. Expecting someone to resist these without help constantly is like asking them to swim upstream against a raging current forever. Our food environment is making us sick, and that's not just a matter of individual willpower.
  • The "Set Point" is a biological reality. Our bodies have a weight range they fight to maintain. When you try to dip significantly below it through traditional dieting, your metabolism slows, hunger hormones skyrocket, and your body actively works to regain that weight. That's why the "bounce back" happens for so many, despite their best efforts. Weight loss medications can help recalibrate this set point, making sustainable change possible.
  • Lifestyle changes ARE crucial, but not always enough. Diet and exercise are vital for overall health and well-being. No one is saying these drugs are a magic bullet without effort. They are a tool that makes those lifestyle changes effective for people whose biology makes weight loss incredibly difficult, or near impossible, otherwise. They level the playing field. It puts many of us in the place where we can "just eat less" as "it's easy"
  • Comprehensive Health Benefits: These medications offer far more than just weight loss. Research increasingly shows they can significantly improve or even reverse conditions like Type 2 Diabetes, reduce the risk of heart attack, stroke, fatty liver disease, sleep apnoea, and may even have positive effects on mental health.
  • Think long-term savings for the NHS. Yes, there's an upfront cost to these medications. But what's the cost of ongoing obesity-related diseases? Diabetes, heart disease, joint replacements – these are costly burdens on our healthcare system. Investing in these drugs now to prevent or mitigate those conditions could lead to massive long-term savings for the NHS. It's a proactive, preventative approach that benefits everyone.
Let's move past the simplistic blame game and recognise that for many, like me, these medications offer genuine hope and a path to health that traditional methods cannot provide. It's about empowering people, not shaming them.

I got a GP referral to the Oviva.com program, which combines access to Wegovy with essential coaching and support to ensure those long-term changes stick. It's a comprehensive approach that recognises the complexity of weight management and helps set the path for when the drugs stop after 2 years.

If you're paying privately, or thinking of it, and have a big BMI and some health-related issues, go check it out. It's in addition to the new announcement and not as strict to get access to the drugs.
 
I've been reading this thread, and I need to push back on the "just eat less and exercise more" narrative. Honestly, if it were that simple, none of us would be here discussing this. Yes, I am a fat fuck, Yes, my BMI has been up and down like a tart's drawers. Unless you've lived it, you'll struggle to understand it.

For so many of us, it's NOT a lack of willpower. That's a harmful myth that overlooks the complexities of biology and our modern food environment. For the hard of thinking or understanding:
  • It's NOT a willpower problem. The idea that people "just need more willpower" completely misunderstands how our bodies regulate weight. We're fighting against powerful biological signals, not just a craving. Many of us have been "serial dieters" our entire lives, only to experience the crushing disappointment of the "bounce back." This isn't a moral failing. Crucially, these medications often reduce what's known as "food noise," quieting the constant, intrusive thoughts about eating that many people experience. Go look at the contestants on "The Biggest Loser" if you want to see bounceback in action.
  • The UPF epidemic is real. We are surrounded by highly palatable, addictive Ultra-Processed Foods (UPF) designed to override our natural satiety signals. Expecting someone to resist these without help constantly is like asking them to swim upstream against a raging current forever. Our food environment is making us sick, and that's not just a matter of individual willpower.
  • The "Set Point" is a biological reality. Our bodies have a weight range they fight to maintain. When you try to dip significantly below it through traditional dieting, your metabolism slows, hunger hormones skyrocket, and your body actively works to regain that weight. That's why the "bounce back" happens for so many, despite their best efforts. Weight loss medications can help recalibrate this set point, making sustainable change possible.
  • Lifestyle changes ARE crucial, but not always enough. Diet and exercise are vital for overall health and well-being. No one is saying these drugs are a magic bullet without effort. They are a tool that makes those lifestyle changes effective for people whose biology makes weight loss incredibly difficult, or near impossible, otherwise. They level the playing field. It puts many of us in the place where we can "just eat less" as "it's easy"
  • Comprehensive Health Benefits: These medications offer far more than just weight loss. Research increasingly shows they can significantly improve or even reverse conditions like Type 2 Diabetes, reduce the risk of heart attack, stroke, fatty liver disease, sleep apnoea, and may even have positive effects on mental health.
  • Think long-term savings for the NHS. Yes, there's an upfront cost to these medications. But what's the cost of ongoing obesity-related diseases? Diabetes, heart disease, joint replacements – these are costly burdens on our healthcare system. Investing in these drugs now to prevent or mitigate those conditions could lead to massive long-term savings for the NHS. It's a proactive, preventative approach that benefits everyone.
Let's move past the simplistic blame game and recognise that for many, like me, these medications offer genuine hope and a path to health that traditional methods cannot provide. It's about empowering people, not shaming them.

I got a GP referral to the Oviva.com program, which combines access to Wegovy with essential coaching and support to ensure those long-term changes stick. It's a comprehensive approach that recognises the complexity of weight management and helps set the path for when the drugs stop after 2 years.

If you're paying privately, or thinking of it, and have a big BMI and some health-related issues, go check it out. It's in addition to the new announcement and not as strict to get access to the drugs.
"For so many of us, it's NOT a lack of willpower" - agree totally

for many, it is
 
"For so many of us, it's NOT a lack of willpower" - agree totally

for many, it is

You're wrong. The science doesn't support that position.. Spend a little time reading around and challenge your very internalised views.

Major health organisations, including the World Health Organisation and our own NICE in the UK, officially recognise obesity as a complex, chronic disease. This isn't about individual moral failing; it's about significant biological, genetic, and environmental factors that go far beyond "just eating less." It's why GP referrals to programs like Oviva exist.
 
You're wrong. The science doesn't support that position.. Spend a little time reading around and challenge your very internalised views.

Major health organisations, including the World Health Organisation and our own NICE in the UK, officially recognise obesity as a complex, chronic disease. This isn't about individual moral failing; it's about significant biological, genetic, and environmental factors that go far beyond "just eating less." It's why GP referrals to programs like Oviva exist.
OK then, have it your way - albeit another ridiculous absolutist statement.

No one said obesity isn't a complex chronic situation (for some people). I certainly didn't.

But if you're trying to tell me that this applies to all morbidly overweight people in the UK, then you are wrong.

I hope you manage to stay healthy.
 
And by the way it is almost a cure for snoring - within two weeks my ZZZZ's were just zzzz's and only lost around 3lb so it wasn't losing weight.
 

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