Weight loss jabs

I've been on reta for 7 weeks.
I would imagine i was in better shape than 90% of the people on here before I started as well as being more active nd did it purely because I'm going n holiday on sunday and wanted to lose a stone. Thought a stone loss would get me a 6 pack but miscalculated that a bit because I've lost just over a stone and no 6 pack in sight.

Anyway, I think I'll stay on it medium to long term when I'm back so that I don't put it back on and not snacking on shit when I'm bored working/skiving from home.
 
Trouble is you do you just eat less of the shit it suppresses hunger

You dont have to eat a lot of food to maintain fat.

Infact if you was so versed you could go from a 6 pack to a jockey wilson by eating the wrong saucer of food....in 30 mins or less
 
Its a disease, just as much worthy of recognition as smackheadery and alcoholism, both of which receive large government funding and rightly so. You don't think folk get super morbidly obese because they enjoy waddling along in leggings and a big t shirt? It's an addiction only one that you cannot give up like beer, fags and smack, as the body needs nutrition to survive. Why people overeat and get to 20 stone plus can be due to a myriad of issues, mental health being one of them. Never feeling full because they are on a sugar rush road into oblivion, greed, gluttony sloth, etc etc etc.

I'm of the opinion that if it saves our NHS money and saves a life, then let the afflicted jab away as it does seem to work. With Mounjaro they cant scoff cream cakes and fill their bellies due to the dual nature of the drug acting as a dual agonist that stimulates GLP-1 and GIP, helping reduce appetite with feelings of fullness and slow stomach emptying. Hence the King Kong of weight loss attributes.

It's not nearly as brutal as having a surgeon dive inside your innards and disabling three quarters of your stomach ..now that is desperation .. is it not > There but for the grace of god, go I.

Leukaemia- disease
SARS - disease
Ebola -disease
Legionnaire- disease

Not being able to eat / drink / exercise properly- not a disease.
 
But as Magicpole alludes to above, being obese leads to many health conditions that cost the NHS far more in the long run.

The NHS paying for certain people to get the jabs will save the NHS more than it costs. It will also lead to more people having a significantly better quality of life.

It’s a good policy that’s being twisted to create an agenda.

Ultimately, there’s always someone fitter, maybe you could say healthier, than you. I possibly fall into that category. But I wouldn’t begrudge you getting extra support from the NHS if it gave you a better quality of life.
I agree there are people on the nhs who need it but there are many who it’s pure laziness who get fat, like smokers, it’s a fucking choice to smoke or be lazy or stupid to carry on eating a chippy tea every night (although that costs a fortune these days), I have no problem with people treating people with genuine conditions that lead to obesity but this will now lead to people taking the piss as they always do in this country because it’s allegedly free, when it’s the tax payer stumping up so some lazy fat fucker can carry on and just get an injection to solve the problem, pity they don’t do one for be being stupid.
 
when it’s the tax payer stumping up so some lazy fat fucker can carry on and just get an injection to solve the problem, pity they don’t do one for be being stupid.

The taxpayers will be saving a fortune with the reductions in medical problems caused by obesity.
 
I think some of you think that the NHS is shelling out just for the asking, everybody I know are paying privately.
My brother in law, an ex veteran had lost his way in life and eventually ended up homeless and in a wheelchair, trying to turn his life around now at 55 and is 20+ stone and has diabetes, high blood pressure and other bits and bobs.
If anyone needs it it's him but only this week he was turned down for the second time by the NHS.
He has just started on them and is paying privately just to get some kind of life back, heartbreaking to see a man who represented the forces at rugby as a twenty year old, and some of you think he should just get out and do more.
 
September 1st Mounjaro increases being quoted at £122- £330 mark are the list price that the UK pharmacies aquire at. You currently can't buy the higher doses of 7.5mg upwards for £120 and 12mg and 15mg doses retail in excess of £180 -£220.

Our Pharmacuticals will obviously try to negotiate stock from Lilly on better terms so they can pass the savings on, but the prices are going to rise substantially keeping pace with America and our European counterparts who all pay more. Expect the higher 12mg and 15mg doses after September to retail at £375 plus so god help the poor tubsters pockets.

Donald told Lilly he wasn't happy with the euro freeloaders paying cheaper than America and to get it sorted pronto. So Eli doing what big Pharma do best, decided instead to increase the price overseas instead of lowering the American prices. The low UK prices were to allow our government time to organize our role out on the NHS which isn't happing any time soon. BMI of 40+ with 4 morbidities I believe, with many areas not even prescribing that.
Yes, its funny how big pharma instead of taking a hit and lowering ripoff US prices, instead, threatened their business in Europe. I don't think they entirely understand how fkucked most people in Europe are financially. People will just stop buying it. This is the oldest tale. Weirdly, it reminds me of the Birmingham bin strikes. The Council is informed they need to introduce wage parity, so instead of the hard working and ripped off dinner ladies getting a pay rise, instead they suggest an 8k pay cut for the hard working bin men. Then moan like bitches when the bin men say fkkk you! I've said it for years. We should have our own, national pharma industry, correctly regulated, not purchasing politicians, not instigating laws that protect their experiments from legal redress, just sensible, well funded, well staffed research for the benefit of the people not share holders!
 
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The taxpayers will be saving a fortune with the reductions in medical problems caused by obesity.
Save even more if the lazy cunts got off their arses, im not talking about people who have genuine medical conditions im on about the others
 
Leukaemia- disease
SARS - disease
Ebola -disease
Legionnaire- disease

Not being able to eat / drink / exercise properly- not a disease.
Apologies Mr Tapia for my outrageous Faux Pas, I should have said illness.

Overweight folk are no different to their drug alcohol and smoking chums, in so much that even though they know it’s bad for their health, it’s pleasurable. Deep down they know it’s bad to eat crap and but think the bad things won’t happen to them, just like the smokers and alkies.

It can take years before the health consequences rear their head, so they continue to indulge in high calorie junk food. Over eating's an habitual process that's very hard to break. Agreed?

I have just had a look and our 2022 health survey and it's estimated that 28% of adults in England were obese and a further 36% were overweight. Men were more likely than women to be overweight or obese . It's said that obesity is usually defined as having a body mass index BMI of 30 or above. A BMI between 25 and 30 is also classified as overweight. Our Kingdoms badly out of shape, and at the moment I wouldn't be confident of standing alongside my fat brothers in arms for an afternoon re-run of the Agincourt, those Frenchie's would bum us all to death.

My bmi is 35 "ish" probably because my lipids are getting old and I'm becoming less efficient at breaking down and removing stored fat etc. even without change to my diet and exercise. My physical activities is in slight decline, partly to me living in the retirement fields, browsing the internet and of course Moonwalking that impacts my ability to rid calories I should be burning off .. but I'm proper on it like a man on a mission.

I'm told that genetics play a role, with some inheriting predispositions to store fat more easily, (moi) which I'm told is advantageous during periods of famine, but less beneficial in today's food stashed world. And don't get me started on hypothyroidism and all those crazy meds, including epilepsy diabetes and of course mental illness that all contributing to weight gain. What about stress, low moods, comfort eating which can lead to increased caloric intake. We are on the whole a bit of a complex organism.

I just asked Jeeves why the world is getting fatter and this is what he said.

Dietary Choices:
Many people consume high-calorie, low-nutrient foods due to convenience, marketing, or lack of knowledge about nutrition. Fast food, sugary drinks, and processed snacks are often more accessible and affordable.
Sedentary Lifestyle: Modern lifestyles often involve less physical activity. Sedentary jobs, increased screen time, and reliance on cars contribute to lower levels of exercise.
Psychological Factors: Emotional factors such as stress, depression, or anxiety can lead individuals to use food as a coping mechanism, resulting in overeating.
Socioeconomic Status: Economic factors play a significant role. Individuals with lower income may have limited access to healthy food options and recreational facilities, leading to unhealthy eating habits and lifestyle choices.
Genetics: Genetic predisposition can influence body weight and fat distribution, making some individuals more susceptible to gaining weight.
Environmental Factors: The built environment, including the availability of parks, recreational facilities, and grocery stores that sell healthy food, can impact physical activity levels and dietary choices.
Cultural Influences: Cultural norms and practices surrounding food and body image can affect how individuals view weight and health, influencing their eating behaviors.
Medical Conditions and Medications: Some medical conditions and medications can lead to weight gain or make it harder to lose weight.
Lack of Education: A lack of knowledge about healthy eating, nutrition, and the consequences of obesity can prevent people from making informed choices.
Addressing obesity often requires a multifaceted approach, including education, access to healthy foods, opportunities for physical activity, and support for mental health.

Obviously I'd love to have a bod like Sean from off of here, but that takes discipline and dedication and I don't think I am currently at that level. Having said that you'll be pleased to know that I am losing slowly and anticipate reducing down to circa 14 stone come Xmas using my rather clever Patented Bob Gun diet way of life approach. It's working for me!
 
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I'm on Mounjaro self funded after years of trying to lose weight.
I've lost 4 stone in 4 month. And changed my life. I won't be on it after xmas as i'll come off it. I wasn't huge looking. But i was unhealthy.

I have ADHD, so struggle with sticking to things. I also eat for comfort, if i'm bored, if i'm happy etc.

There's plenty of judgmental folk on here. It's not as easy as you think.

Just to add, I've not just continued eating crap food and boozing. I've completely changed my lifestyle too. 1500 cals deficit a day. 10k steps average too.

I won't be going back to fat.
 
I'm on Mounjaro self funded after years of trying to lose weight.
I've lost 4 stone in 4 month. And changed my life. I won't be on it after xmas as i'll come off it. I wasn't huge looking. But i was unhealthy.

I have ADHD, so struggle with sticking to things. I also eat for comfort, if i'm bored, if i'm happy etc.

There's plenty of judgmental folk on here. It's not as easy as you think.

Just to add, I've not just continued eating crap food and boozing. I've completely changed my lifestyle too. 1500 cals deficit a day. 10k steps average too.

I won't be going back to fat.
I'm 3 in 3 and feel just as you do.
 
I'm on Mounjaro self funded after years of trying to lose weight.
I've lost 4 stone in 4 month. And changed my life. I won't be on it after xmas as i'll come off it. I wasn't huge looking. But i was unhealthy.

I have ADHD, so struggle with sticking to things. I also eat for comfort, if i'm bored, if i'm happy etc.

There's plenty of judgmental folk on here. It's not as easy as you think.

Just to add, I've not just continued eating crap food and boozing. I've completely changed my lifestyle too. 1500 cals deficit a day. 10k steps average too.

I won't be going back to fat.
Great result .How expensive roughly?
 
ive got fat, wouldn't consider this but fair play to anyone who has, i know a few and its working well for them and they are far happier.
 
I was prescribed Mounjaro for my diabetes about 10 months ago. I lost a stone in the 1st 6 weeks. Since then have lost a further half a stone. However, for the last 6 months have maintained the same weight.
I did laugh years ago when the diabetes nurse suggested I take more exercise. She was at least 20 stone and seemed shocked when I pointed out, at the time, that I went to the gym for 2-3 hours every Monday, Thursday and Friday. I reffed games Tuesday and Wednesday nights, did 2 games on a Saturday and Sunday.
 

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