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Voted Man of the Match by most for Rangers against Valencia.

Didn't watch it myself but is our boy progressing?

Successor to Shauny as our second natural right-winger behind Johnson?

Have long had hopes for him but his progress stalled, having a standout performance against a decent team like Valencia is surely worth taking note of though.
 
I'm sorry mate but you'll get only like 5 responces this thread will soon be lost amongst all the none City threads and all things rooney.

I can see him staying there if they can offer decent amount for him,think we should maybe put in a buy back clause though if that's possible.
Good atmosphere and stadium of that size singing your name will maybe make him want to make the switch.
 
shootmeifipost10k said:
I'm sorry mate but you'll get only like 5 responces this thread will soon be lost amongst all the none City threads and all things rooney.

I can see him staying there if they can offer decent amount for him,think we should maybe put in a buy back clause though if that's possible.
Good atmosphere and stadium of that size singing your name will maybe make him want to make the switch.
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A shame isn't it, people used to talk about our academy and reserves a lot more.

I don't think Weiss will stay at Rangers though. Even if we offload him, clubs in England, Spain, and Germany will be interested in such a talent. My hope though is that with standout performances like tonight, he is progressing and can at least be a squad player for us.
 
He was ok, stands out like a sore thumb in the Rangers team because he's the only one with a bit of flair and really genuine natural ability, but he also gave the ball away in some dangerous areas and flits in and out of games.

I think by far and away the biggest thing he needs to improve though is his movement off the ball. So often you see him just standing watching the play, not doing anything. Truly class players will be moving constantly dragging defenders around, making space for the other attackers, running into space etc. Weiss only seems to come alive when he gets the ball into feet.

It's not just tonight i've noticed that, saw the same thing in the World Cup when he played for Slovakia, spends too much time standing still. You can get away with it in the SPL or in youth/reserve football, but not when you reach the Champions League/International level, it's an area he really has to improve on if he wants to make it at the top level
 
First real test to see just how good he is will be this Sunday against Celtic. Dont forget he is still young this season will do him wonders. I feel he will replace SWP for next season think he will be on his way. I think he will be looking to play more games and at the moment he isnt getting a look in at the moment and will be left behind.
 
dannybcity said:
I'm not sure about him. He'd have to be exception to force his way into our side and at the moment I just can't see it.
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He's got the talent, but he plays like he's still in the school playground. He needs to get videos of David Silva and just watch them on repeat. Doesn't play smart enough at the moment.
 
Was nowhere close to MOTM for the Gers tonight....either Bougherra or Davis claim that comfortably. But...he has played very well for them/us this season. Electric pace, beats players with ease, but his final ball has been average at best. Gers fans definitely want to keep him at the end of the year...he`s a young Davie Cooper.
 
leighton said:
First real test to see just how good he is will be this Sunday against Celtic. Dont forget he is still young this season will do him wonders. I feel he will replace SWP for next season think he will be on his way. I think he will be looking to play more games and at the moment he isnt getting a look in at the moment and will be left behind.
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Have you ever seen a Celtic rangers game?
They dont play football, It looks more like rugby. Weiss will be lucky to survive.
 
Do you think Weiss will still make it here?

Looking at Bale.. even Lennon.. you know Huddlestone, Mikel, Fletcher, Lassana Diarra.
Some quality players have been left languishing on the bench cause they've been bought as youngsters or come through the academy.. It's not always about quality.. Sometimes it's because you buy Silva for millions so he can't get a chance..

I mean this article discusses it more & goes into depth <a class="postlink" href="http://bit.ly/angpze" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://bit.ly/angpze</a>

But, Weiss is a quality player there's no doubt, but sometimes until "Sky".. the Radio & people in football see it Live on a UCL night.. Players like him will not get the recognition they need..
to get a regular run.. It happened to Bale... he didn't just get better.. it's just that he got a chance to prove himself..

I hope Weiss grows into a monster when he gets to 23/24
 
Weiss has the potential to be as good as Johnson (A). I hope he has a future at City. He may be one of ours but our acedemy need to produce a better quality of player these days. The days of producing players like Floods and Croft have gone. Weiss is now going to have to compete with a world cup winner and 2 England internationals currently.
 
zoffie said:
Do you think Weiss will still make it here?

Looking at Bale.. even Lennon.. you know Huddlestone, Mikel, Fletcher, Lassana Diarra.
Some quality players have been left languishing on the bench cause they've been bought as youngsters or come through the academy.. It's not always about quality.. Sometimes it's because you buy Silva for millions so he can't get a chance..

I mean this article discusses it more & goes into depth <a class="postlink" href="http://bit.ly/angpze" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://bit.ly/angpze</a>

But, Weiss is a quality player there's no doubt, but sometimes until "Sky".. the Radio & people in football see it Live on a UCL night.. Players like him will not get the recognition they need..
to get a regular run.. It happened to Bale... he didn't just get better.. it's just that he got a chance to prove himself..

I hope Weiss grows into a monster when he gets to 23/24
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Weiss is very nearly 23/24. That is the problem.

He is never going to be a top player.

You are talking rubbish about players like him not being played because we've bought Silva. We've bought 3 top players that can play as CB over the past 14 months, yet Boyata is getting game time. This is because he is young, and could be good enough for where we're going.

If a youth player is good enough, they'll get their chance. If not, they can play for a weaker team.
 
DontLookBackInAnger said:
If he had a future at City he wouldn't be on loan in the SPL....
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Completely disagree
At Ibrox he will have to grow up very quickly and learn when to hold the ball and when to pass.
The rangers fans will hero worship a skillful winger but will be very quick to let someone know if and when they are not playing as required.
With three England wingers already at the club competting for at most two positions, Vlad was not going to get much time on the pitch, but if he continues to improve at Rangers he will be at least as good if not better than any of the wide players we have at the club.
(I dont class Davy Silver as a winger as he is better suited as a midfield playmaker)
 
CTID Chris said:
zoffie said:
Do you think Weiss will still make it here?

Looking at Bale.. even Lennon.. you know Huddlestone, Mikel, Fletcher, Lassana Diarra.
Some quality players have been left languishing on the bench cause they've been bought as youngsters or come through the academy.. It's not always about quality.. Sometimes it's because you buy Silva for millions so he can't get a chance..

I mean this article discusses it more & goes into depth <a class="postlink" href="http://bit.ly/angpze" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://bit.ly/angpze</a>

But, Weiss is a quality player there's no doubt, but sometimes until "Sky".. the Radio & people in football see it Live on a UCL night.. Players like him will not get the recognition they need..
to get a regular run.. It happened to Bale... he didn't just get better.. it's just that he got a chance to prove himself..

I hope Weiss grows into a monster when he gets to 23/24
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Weiss is very nearly 23/24. That is the problem.

He is never going to be a top player.

You are talking rubbish about players like him not being played because we've bought Silva. We've bought 3 top players that can play as CB over the past 14 months, yet Boyata is getting game time. This is because he is young, and could be good enough for where we're going.

If a youth player is good enough, they'll get their chance. If not, they can play for a weaker team.
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He is 20 years old, 3 or 4 years at that early stage make all the difference.
 
DontLookBackInAnger said:
If he had a future at City he wouldn't be on loan in the SPL....
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Don't necessarily agree with that. The lad needs playing time and he's getting that; plus he got a chance to shine against Valencia in the CL. It's getting tougher all the time for younger players to break into the first 11 but Weiss can do it, with a lot of luck, mind, but he can if he continues to impress and develop. I don't think he'll be able to be a first-teamer but as a backup/impact sub, who knows? I always try to be positive about youth players until they're either released or sold, but it's up to Weiss now to shape his future. It's good that he's playing, at least.
 
law74 said:
With three England wingers already at the club competting for at most two positions, Vlad was not going to get much time on the pitch, but if he continues to improve at Rangers he will be at least as good if not better than any of the wide players we have at the club.
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But will SWP get the "this is our academy!" sympathy contract or be shipped out as he would be at any other top club (wasn't good enough for Chelsea when he was twice the player he is now)? Think I'd take the unpredictability factor of Vlad right now than Shauny. And I do love Shauny but even as a winger in reserve now he just seems to have lost so much (he did make one nice run yesterday but everything else he did, he seemed to botch).
 
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