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lonestay said:
Why is there so much negativity about Donnarumma? Eddie has gone, he went of his own accord, he no longer wanted to play for Manchester City FC, and good luck to him for the future. We have replaced him with one of the top goalies in world football at a very cheap price .Trafford may develop into a world class goalie, but he is not that right now Donnarumma is . City and Pep will probably have to develop a new style of play to adapt to Donna , but i don't see that as a bad thing ,we have been found out so time to adapt
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So the team has to change the way they play to benefit from the specific skills of the goalkeeper? That’s a new one.
 
BlueMoonAcrossThePond said:
Why on earth did we sign Donnarumma?

I thought that he's an excellent shot stopper - turns out that he's worse than Ederson and far worse than Trafford even in current form.

Donnarumma is so bad on the ball that he doesn't sweep and insead pretty much remains in goal.

His passing ability is terrible too - he doesn't typically take goal kicks and he'll never, ever show for the ball.

The thing that Donnarumma excels at is - having realized his weakness at sweepting - is staying in goal all of the time and forcing attackers to beat him.

I didn't realize this at all - but this video convinced me:


Given that this is true - it seems to be - ... I've no clue at all what we're doing with respect to recruitment.

Are we abandoning our keep-ball system of defense when Donnarumma starts?

Why did we sign Trafford - an excellent shot stopper (better than Donnarumma) and far, far better at passing?

Beats me.

I think that Donnarumma is going to be a huge disaster for our side and if I'm right, we need to make changes in management/coaching.
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Probably because You’re one of the worst posters on here in terms of their opinions as you seem to know sweet fuck all.
 
lunebleu said:
So the team has to change the way they play to benefit from the specific skills of the goalkeeper? That’s a new one.
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It certainly did when Haaland signed. :-)

When Holland isn’t playing the teams style of play is totally different and a lot more expansive and fluid.

Not that Haaland is a goalkeeper.

TBH I wouldn’t mind a more direct approach for a change from our goalkeeper.

I’m bored shitless with the playing out of the back, slow, back, and sideways passing that is still being played this season, even after it was debunked last season by some many other managers and their teams.
 
Can see this bloke being a good one to have around the club and team. Big fella, seems a big friendly personality, very accomplished international and obviously a world class player. When he settles here and Im sure it will be quickly he will be class and Im sure we will grow to love him. Hes a blue now
 
lunebleu said:
So the team has to change the way they play to benefit from the specific skills of the goalkeeper? That’s a new one.
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The way we play isn't working at the moment , it was beginning not to work when we had Eddie and then Trafford in goal . Also players that made that system work have left the team so adapt or die .
 
lonestay said:
Why is there so much negativity about Donnarumma? Eddie has gone, he went of his own accord, he no longer wanted to play for Manchester City FC, and good luck to him for the future. We have replaced him with one of the top goalies in world football at a very cheap price .Trafford may develop into a world class goalie, but he is not that right now Donnarumma is . City and Pep will probably have to develop a new style of play to adapt to Donna , but i don't see that as a bad thing ,we have been found out so time to adapt
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Because some people have no idea what they're talking about and some have agendas against players from certain countries or in favor of English players. Don't hold your breath waiting for them to admit it...
Some haven't grasped the fact that the Prem, for better or for worse, is now an international league with City being one of its marquee clubs.
 
Le Havre Oswald said:
Probably because You’re one of the worst posters on here in terms of their opinions as you seem to know sweet fuck all.
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OK - you disagree with my take. Why so?

Instead of attacking me personally - state precisely why who disagree with my take - that way we can engage in back in forth debate on the merit - instead of ad hominem attacks.
 
JewelZee said:
Get the fuck outta here with that load of bullshit...
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And yet if you conduct basic the most basic of research on Donnarumma you'd find that everything in my post is true.

Look - I get that you're a fan of City and want to support new players in our side no matter what - but I'm different. I support City just as much as you do, but I'm able to look at players and their performances independent of my pro-City bias.
 
BlueMoonAcrossThePond said:
And yet if you conduct basic the most basic of research on Donnarumma you'd find that everything in my post is true.

Look - I get that you're a fan of City and want to support new players in our side no matter what - but I'm different. I support City just as much as you do, but I'm able to look at players and their performances independent of my pro-City bias.
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Major 'I've done my own research on vaccines vibes'.

Here's some more independent research for you

https://archive.ph/Lmrsn

www.nytimes.com

Gianluigi Donnarumma may not feel like a ‘Pep player’, but neither did Erling Haaland

Donnarumma is the Haaland of goalkeepers. His deficiencies are overplayed. His generational talent somehow continues to be underplayed
www.nytimes.com www.nytimes.com
 
jaiguruKun said:
You could make any keeper look shit with an edited video of their worst moments.
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Absolutely so.

Donnarumma, when in his box, stopping shots, is probably #2 in the world - I think that Courtois is a bit better.

But Donnarumma is obviously very poor on the ball - which Pep has in his entire career valued.

Which brings around the obvious question - why did we sign a keeper who isn't good on the ball, especially after we signed Trafford - who is excellent on the ball and fits our system and who is excellent at stopping shots?
 
JewelZee said:
Because some people have no idea what they're talking about and some have agendas against players from certain countries or in favor of English players. Don't hold your breath waiting for them to admit it...
Some haven't grasped the fact that the Prem, for better or for worse, is now an international league with City being one of its marquee clubs.
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Don't think anyone has any agenda about the nationality of any player. Some have doubts about how we adapt our game to change from Ederson to Donnarumma,no big deal. I find it a odd one to get my head around, but Pep knows what he wants so I'm all good with it and looking forward to seeing how it pans out.Not one fan will be against it based on nationality.
 
BlueMoonAcrossThePond said:
And yet if you conduct basic the most basic of research on Donnarumma you'd find that everything in my post is true.

Look - I get that you're a fan of City and want to support new players in our side no matter what - but I'm different. I support City just as much as you do, but I'm able to look at players and their performances independent of my pro-City bias.
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Might be worth waiting for him to actually play a game for us before writing him off though.
 
Paul1970 said:
Are you being serious ? Try telling that to Italian fans who win the euros also psg who win the champions league . Best keeper in the world .
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Donnarumma is arguably the best keeper in the world at shot stopping ability when in the box.

But he's average at best when distributing the ball and isn't good at commanding the box on corners/free kicks.

More to the point - Pep has based his entire career on keeping the ball as a primary means of defense and has put a premium on goalkeepers who are good on the ball. Trafford makes perfect sense as a signing. Donnarumma makes no sense.
 
BlueMoonAcrossThePond said:
Donnarumma is arguably the best keeper in the world at shot stopping ability in his box.

But he's average at best when distributing the ball and isn't good at commanding the box on corners/free kicks.

More to the point - Pep has based his entire career on keeping the ball as a primary means of defense and has put a premium on goalkeepers who are good on the ball. Trafford makes perfect sense as a signing. Donnarumma makes no sense.
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Is this the same Trafford who just passed the ball directly to an opposition player who was 4 yards from our goal?

Non of what you're saying is coming from watching him play - it's all coming from articles you've read or watched online which are trying to downplay his ability simply because he's joining Manchester City.

Elements of the media did exactly the same with Pep and Haaland when they joined us as well - it's all an attempt to rain on the parade. Hell, at one point De Bruyne was apparently just a '£60m reject'.

Do you think Donnarumma plays for PSG all the way to the treble if he's not good enough in many attributes? Do Italy win the Euros with him winning player of the tournament if he's not good enough? Both of those teams played out from the back as well. We're talking him being in goal for the top 2 honours in european football.
 
Ric said:
Good piece on Donnarumma by James Horncastle in the New York Times yesterday:

www.nytimes.com

Gianluigi Donnarumma may not feel like a ‘Pep player’, but neither did Erling Haaland

Donnarumma is the Haaland of goalkeepers. His deficiencies are overplayed. His generational talent somehow continues to be underplayed
www.nytimes.com www.nytimes.com

Behind a paywall, so here is another link:
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a most refreshing and informative read, their Serie A correspondent should replace Sam Lee as City reporter without delay.
 
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