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"If there's no Champions League football next year that's Guardiola's problem, not mine."Pellegrini on #MCFCvAFC

Apologies for not following the thread closely, but is this true? Does not sound like something he would say.
 
LJ75 said:
"If there's no Champions League football next year that's Guardiola's problem, not mine."Pellegrini on #MCFCvAFC

Apologies for not following the thread closely, but is this true? Does not sound like something he would say.
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Isn't that off a parody Sun account? Sure I saw something about that on Facebook last night. I can't see Pellers saying that in all honesty, can you?
 
LJ75 said:
"If there's no Champions League football next year that's Guardiola's problem, not mine."Pellegrini on #MCFCvAFC

Apologies for not following the thread closely, but is this true? Does not sound like something he would say.
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It's true. Pellers may not have said it (lest I doubt if he did) but it is undeniably true.
 
tolmie's hairdoo said:
We are getting Pep Guardiola!!!!!!!!

For all the faults, we are getting somebody who will not fail, even if it takes him ten years.

The greatest asset we will suddenly possess is somebody who prepares the team correctly, regardless of opposition.

Everything else is down to the uncertainty of sport.
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Lol if it does we won't be the beneficiaries. He'll be gone in 3 years when his contract is up to experience another League. Pretty sure he's already talked about managing in Italy and pretty sure he's talked about retiring early enough to enjoy it as well. He's the type of guy who'll burn himself out so don't see him looking at City as a long term project. Just hope and expect to get the best out of him whilst he is with us..........
 
JoeMercer'sWay said:
Ok, 9 league defeats in 2010/11, only 2 at home.
2011/12, 5 defeats, 0 at home.
2012/13, 6 defeats, 2 at home.

2013/14 Pelle 6 defeats, 1 at home.
2014/15 7 defeats, 2 at home.
2015/16 10 defeats, 5 at home.

so 4 defeats to 8 at home in 3 seasons, plus we hadn't lost 10 league games in a season since 2008, and with a win next Sunday Pelle will beat Mancini's attempt in his first half season after taking over from Hughes by a single point. If we don't win on Sunday we will have a lower points total that at any time under Mancini.

and before people jump on me, I made a point to reference to the wider feeling around the club and my personal feelings and experiences of this season, blueinsa turned it into Mancini v Pelle. I've been going all season just as I have in recent years, and I've not felt this inevitability about being beaten as I have this season since Hughes. The club had pushed forward with an identity and a hunger and it's unraveled, and it's a club wide series of factors that in my view have pushed fans further away from the club than before. The performances and results don't translate to what the ownership say they want to achieve, the signings don't back up those ambitions, the reluctance to be radical and change things to stop the rot adds to that. The level of real involvement and connection with the fans has dropped despite what the ownership say they want and how the club wants to portray it, and our club identity has taken a pummeling despite what the club is trying to portray to the world as being "City" and #together etc. etc.

Thus, the apathy has set in, and it's not nice.
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That title winning season played 19 won 18 at home. 2 points dropped all season. I do hope Pep brings that crushing inevitability of certain victory back next season.
 
CityPar said:
Lol if it does we won't be the beneficiaries. He'll be gone in 3 years when his contract is up to experience another League. Pretty sure he's already talked about managing in Italy and pretty sure he's talked about retiring early enough to enjoy it as well. He's the type of guy who'll burn himself out so don't see him looking at City as a long term project. Just hope and expect to get the best out of him whilst he is with us..........
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thanks for letting us know your thinking pep
 
CityPar said:
Lol if it does we won't be the beneficiaries. He'll be gone in 3 years when his contract is up to experience another League. Pretty sure he's already talked about managing in Italy and pretty sure he's talked about retiring early enough to enjoy it as well. He's the type of guy who'll burn himself out so don't see him looking at City as a long term project. Just hope and expect to get the best out of him whilst he is with us..........
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Three years with us gives him two years left before his chosen retirement age.... I would hope that he'd do the whole 5 with us if things go well.....
 
blueinsa said:
We lost 40 games under Bob in total, all comps.

We have lost 39 games under Pellegrini in total, all comps.
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That's a pretty damning indictment of Pellegrini.

Mancini managed City for 191 games, Pellegrini for 165.

Mancini took over a team that had just finished 10th and not won a title for 42 years.

Pellegrini took over a team that had just finished 2nd and won the title the year before.
 
Shaelumstash said:
That's a pretty damning indictment of Pellegrini.

Mancini managed City for 191 games, Pellegrini for 165.

Mancini took over a team that had just finished 10th and not won a title for 42 years.

Pellegrini took over a team that had just finished 2nd and won the title the year before.
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Yeah. Didn't realise it was as bad as that. Nearly 30 less games and Mancini took over with the likes of Jo in the squad.
 
BobKowalski said:
Yeah. Didn't realise it was as bad as that. Nearly 30 less games and Mancini took over with the likes of Jo in the squad.
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Yeh it's startling isn't it mate.

There has been a recurring debate on every manager thread on Bluemoon for the last 3 years over who did a better job for City - Mancini or Pellegrini. There is absolutely no credibility left for the Pellegrini side of the debate. None.
 
Shaelumstash said:
Yeh it's startling isn't it mate.

There has been a recurring debate on every manager thread on Bluemoon for the last 3 years over who did a better job for City - Mancini or Pellegrini. There is absolutely no credibility left for the Pellegrini side of the debate. None.
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There was never a debate in my mind. Mancini unquestioningly had a more difficult task and did a much better job of it. I will say that I was very negative about Pellers when he first arrived and whilst a lot of my doubts have materialised I didn't mind Pellers in the end. There were enough high points, cups won and CL progress to mitigate his unbalanced football, perchant for comedy defending and crushingly dull persona.

And he wasn't Mark Hughes so silver linings and all that.
 
Mancini had probably taken the club as far as he could when he was sacked. Pellegrini was a decent short term option but has stayed a year too long. He was never a tactical genius, lacking on the defensive side but he managed to get the best out of the players in his first season. Unfortunately they now seem to have stopped playing for him.

"Waiting for Pep" may yet prove to be a masterstroke. But I wonder how this season would have panned out if we had replaced Pellegrini with Klopp 12 months ago.
 
I dont get this Mancini had take the club as far as he could talk. How exactly? He wanted to make the big signings to kick on, the club didnt let him.

You telling me if we allowed him to carry on as he was doing we wouldnt have won as many trophies as we have done up to now? No chance. We would have won the league again at least.
 
Swings and roundabouts as to who did the better job for me. The squad that Mancini had in 2011/12 was deeper and more balanced than the one we have now, but I'm never sure how much praise to give the manager with transfers. Both struggled with weaker squads and less options.
 
BillyShears said:
Ha. You've got to be kidding right? Like the lamenters need an excuse to get their candles out and start their mass seances to raise the spirit of Bobby Manc.

Anyway thankfully that shit will all be over in a week.
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I don't think people want Mancini back or are even suggesting he should not have been sacked?

It's just there are 2 managers to have managed this core of players to its the only fair comparison. Its obvious Pellegrini has been much worse than Mancini but in no way do I want Mancini back.

The board made the mistake of making the decision to sack Mancini in 2012 but then not having the balls to do it until 2013.
 
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