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Didn't they have printed club statements ready to hand out to the journalists at the end of the press conference, and as the Pellegrini statement came right at the end of the conference the club were fully aware he was going to say it.
Dunno mate, I've heard a lot of 'I've heard' 'I reckon' 'Didn't they' but no-one has definitively come out and said this is what happened. All I do know is that the first time it was announced, it was Manuel who had done so and that is the only thing anyone has been able to confirm.
 
Can you point me to an official statement where the club said they allowed Manuel to make the announcement to save him from being humiliated.

Also Manuel wasn't dismissed, by all accounts the one year contract extension was able to be pulled by either party and it was City who exercised this option albeit we all suspected it was in place to stop constant media speculation about his future.

Pellers was given his notice that is a form of dismissal in employnent law.

It has been widely reported that Pellers agreed what he was going to say with the Club's hierarchy!
 
Pellers was given his notice that is a form of dismissal in employment law.

It has been widely reported that Pellers agreed what he was going to say with the Club's hierarchy!
Like I said, Manuel himself said that the 12 month contract extension had a get out clause for this summer for both parties or words to that effect, but he didn't confirm which party activated it but it's logical to assume it was City. That much is fact.

I'm not disputing your claim that it 'was widely reported' I'm just asking if you can tell me where I can find any of these reports because I must have missed them.
 
Er...the post people are commenting on lists a series of managers and hypothesises that none of them "would continually play Fabian Delph at left wing". We'll, Pellegrini hasn't either. So Tim of the Oak is correct.

Errrr, I wrote the post that people are commenting on.

I said he "continually picks Delph at left wing". Meaning he's done it more than twice, despite him being diabolical every time.

Tim of the Oak actually said "how has Delph been our regular left winger when he's been injured most of the season".

He hasn't been "our regular left winger" and I've never suggested that he has.
 
I think very differently. He's done a piss poor job when faced with injuries because, for example, he puts Demichelis in and asks him to play a high line when his legs have gone. He did nothing to tailor our tactics defensively to help out Demichelis or the team. Then he constantly plays Yaya in a midfield two when his legs have gone or asks him to play two games in three days when his legs have gone instead of - in either circumstance - maybe just trying out MGarcía. Or he didn't trust Iheanacho to play at Villa and we played with no striker against the worst Prem team of the decade for an hour and drew 0-0. He plays Delph on the left and plays Fernando and Yaya as a two when they've never (ever!) played well in a two together instead of playing Delph and Fernando as the two and give Yaya a rest after he only played three days before and can't do it anymore with so little time between games.

He's constantly done things like this when faced with injuries, to the detriment of the team and our results.

Fantastic post, agree with every word.
 
At the risk of dancing round in circles with you, here are 'apparently' the latest quotes from Manuel regarding Pep. Two points though, it was Manuel who announced Pep to City forcing the club to confirm it. Also do you agree or disagree that under normal circumstances Manuel would probably been sacked at the end of last season had it not been for us having Pep secured so Manuel provided the route of least resistance for a season?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...tml?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490


We don't need to dance around.

I fully agree that if Pellegrini was employed under normal circumstances he would have been sack.

That's my point. I don't think his job or he was ever employed under normal circumstances.
 
I don't think Carlo Ancelotti, Jurgen Klopp, Rafa Benitez, Maricio Pochetino, Unai Emery, Diego Simeone, Roberto Mancini, Ronald Koeman, Antonio Conte or Massimo Allegri would continually pick Fabian Delph at left wing.

I don't think any of them would consistently select Yaya Toure and Fernando in a two man midfield after it has proven to be so disasterous in the past.

I don't think any of them would continue to pick Wilfried Bony ahead of Iheanacho in circumstances where we need a goal and an effective partner for Aguero.

I don't think any of them would have selected Martin DeMichelis 9 times this year and lost 7 of those games.

I don't think any of them would select Joleon Lescott, Javi Garcia or Matija Nastasic at centre back and ask them to squeeze up to the half way line.

I don't think any of them would select a two man central midfield of James Milner and Fernando against the Barcelona team that is considered the best taam of all time.

I don't think any of them would consistently select Edin Dzeko and Alvaro Negredo as a strike partnership.

I don't think any of them would play 442 against a Bayern Munich team that went 3-0 up essentially playing 8 men in midfield.

None of those managers are the best in the world, but they are all competent. None of them would consistently make decisions that have been a hinderance to a team as much as Pellegrini has.

Avram Grant was a nothing as Chelsea manager, an irrelevance. Pellegrini at City has actually been a hinderance in my view, and made the collection of players worse than the sum of their parts.


just what part of this post do you find doesnt repeatedly hit the nail on the fucking head


Non of them would have taken the job either.
 
I said he "continually picks Delph at left wing". Meaning he's done it more than twice, despite him being diabolical every time.

Tim of the Oak actually said "how has Delph been our regular left winger when he's been injured most of the season".

He hasn't been "our regular left winger" and I've never suggested that he has.

My interpetration of "continually" is clearly different to yours. Anyway, maybe I'm a senile old soul too but I'm losing track of all the faults being laid at his door. Either way, for me, he's got 7 games to establish himself as the second best manager we've ever had. If not, he goes with my thanks and respect for his contribution.
 
Shaelumstash, was part of the reason why Guardiola didn't come in 2013, due to the negative financial effects of FFP on us you think?

I don't have any information about what happened in 2013, so my guess is as good as yours mate.

I know from reading Pep Confidential that he had a few seriously attractive offers in 2013. Reading between the lines it seemed he was set on coming to us but he agonised over it because the chance of working with that incredible group at Bayern was maybe too good an opportunity to turn down.

FFP may have played a part. My guess is that he saw it as more of a risk coming to us. The adjustment from Spain to England it much greater than Spain to Germany, particularly for his style.

Going to Bayern meant he had a very good chance of being successful, thus protecting his reputation. Germany is also the perfect stepping stone between the technical Spanish league and the physical English league. So I personally think his experience at Bayern means we're getting a more rounded, better prepared manager for the Premier League.
 
We're going round in circles. I'm having flash backs to trying to buy Madrid tickets on Monday.

You think Pellegrini has been a temporary appointment. I think 3 years is in no way temporary, in fact it's pretty long term.

You think we've been treading water. I think we've spent over £300m and bought some of the most sought after players in Europe.

You think the job was never really Pellegrini's. I think the job was his for 3 years, he's just underachieved.

You are basically suggesting that the very notion that Pellegrini wasn't guaranteed a 4th year from the very start means it's completely undermined him from the start and given him an impossible job. I think that's bollocks.


I quoted your own post. A post that you confirmed the club has been in talks with another manager during and before Pellegrini's time.

You can't think it's "bollocks" you've agreed.

Unfortunately the club's actions contradict you.

If we hadn't agree a deal for Guardiola do you think he'd be in a job?

No need to answer. You've already said he wouldn't.
 
I quoted your own post. A post that you confirmed the club has been in talks with another manager during and before Pellegrini's time.

You can't think it's "bollocks" you've agreed.

Unfortunately the club's actions contradict you.

If we hadn't agree a deal for Guardiola do you think he'd be in a job?

No need to answer. You've already said he wouldn't.

You're getting confused here.

I've never disputed that we spoke to Guardiola before and during Pellegrini's appointment.

What I said was "bollocks" was your assertion that those discussions have completely undermined Pellegrini and made it an impossible job.

So actually I can think that's "bollocks", and I very much do.

Do you think Alvaro Nedgredo and Jesus Navas were players bought for Guardiola's arrival? Or were they bought for Pellegrini's 442?

How about the technically dreadful Fernando and Mangala? Were they directly requested by Guardiola and bought against Pellegrini's will, despite the fact every media outlet in the country has reported Pep wants to bomb them out before he arrives?

I'm struggling to work out exactly when you think Pellegrini became undermined. You've suggested it was before he even took the job, but that angle lost all credibility long ago, so I assume your stance has now changed again.

My view, which I've posted on here before was that after the dreadful 2014/15 season we wanted to get rid of Pellegrini. I'm sure we had informal talks with Guardiola but no cast iron agreement.

Instead of sacking Pellegrini last summer we broke our transfer record twice in one pre season and backed him to the hilt. And he still fucked it up.

He would have gone 6 months ago if we didn't have a formal agreement with Guardiola. So he's got an extra 6 months that he didn't deserve and wouldn't have got under "normal circumstances." Didums.
 
Like I said, Manuel himself said that the 12 month contract extension had a get out clause for this summer for both parties or words to that effect, but he didn't confirm which party activated it but it's logical to assume it was City. That much is fact.

I'm not disputing your claim that it 'was widely reported' I'm just asking if you can tell me where I can find any of these reports because I must have missed them.

Hi Dribble. I saw a new quote on this from Manuel on Twitter yesterday. If I can find it I will post it. I should have done that yesterday but I was out on the ciders. Manuel was saying the Club had to be involved in his statement and everyone knew Pep was coming.
 
even that wouldn't redeem him to me. I may be old fashioned but to me its all about the prem. yes i'll see you over in Madrid but its just a short jolly, the cup itself is just an added bonus should we ever win it.

Hopefully Pep's passion will unite the match going fans like Roberto did! See you in Madrid.
 
even that wouldn't redeem him to me. I may be old fashioned but to me its all about the prem. yes i'll see you over in Madrid but its just a short jolly, the cup itself is just an added bonus should we ever win it.
I agree. Was saying to someone the other day that winning the CL but finishing so far off the pace in the league wouldn't do it for me. Yep, it's a great trophy to win, but I'd rather be Champions of England, for some reason it means more to me.

Oh, and at times this season wee have been absolutely dire to watch.
 
Hi Dribble. I saw a new quote on this from Manuel on Twitter yesterday. If I can find it I will post it. I should have done that yesterday but I was out on the ciders. Manuel was saying the Club had to be involved in his statement and everyone knew Pep was coming.
Thanks, post it if you can mate as I can find no other statement anywhere so I'd be genuinely interested. Everyone suspected Pep was coming to City but I reckon only Pep's people and City knew with absolute certainty and Richard Keys of BEIN Sports! Lol

As for City being in on Manuel's announcement, it took everyone by surprise and it just had the feeling of an impromptu decision to do so on Manuel's behalf not something the club was expecting and prepared for.
 
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