We're in trouble

[Mr. Aguia]

Re: Were in trouble

I think playing 2 strikers is a big part of the problem. It really takes away another player who could be pressing the ball high up the pitch. Which is what we are supposed to transitioning into, much like Liverpool do. I haven't seen much of this so far, certainly not effectively. Rather see Rodwell or Milner come into a midfield 3 which would give us more cover int he center of the park. With Navas and Zab playing so wide we are a bit open in the middle of the pitch and Yaya isn't known for his defensive work. It's also keeping him out of the attacking area by playing him so deep. I haven't seen him really effect a game so far like he's done in the past. Dinho has played very passively so far which is bizzare. Don't know if this is a tacticle decision by MP or he's just deffering to the established players.

 

[Deleted member 52846]

Re: Were in trouble

If we're in trouble then everyone is in trouble because nobody has impressed me so far.

We've been okay for a game and a half and quite poor for a game and a half; United were good at Swansea then quite poor for two games; Chelsea were good for a half against Hull then were poor at Old Trafford; Spurs haven't scored from open play yet; Arsenal were dreadful at home to Villa; Liverpool could quite easily be sat on just 3points after three 1-0 wins where Stoke hit the bar and missed a penalty, Villa were all over them in the second half last week and they were quite poor against United but scraped a win...

Let's see where we are around Christmas to February and start to judge whether we're in trouble or not, eh?!

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Re: Were in trouble

If we're in trouble then everyone is in trouble because nobody has impressed me so far.

 

[Deleted member 52846]

Re: Were in trouble

I think playing 2 strikers is a big part of the problem. It really takes away another player who could be pressing the ball high up the pitch. Which is what we are supposed to transitioning into, much like Liverpool do. I haven't seen much of this so far, certainly not effectively. Rather see Rodwell or Milner come into a midfield 3 which would give us more cover int he center of the park. With Navas and Zab playing so wide we are a bit open in the middle of the pitch and Yaya isn't known for his defensive work. It's also keeping him out of the attacking area by playing him so deep. I haven't seen him really effect a game so far like he's done in the past. Dinho has played very passively so far which is bizzare. Don't know if this is a tacticle decision by MP or he's just deffering to the established players.

That's a good point to be fair.

I don't think 2 holding mids and 2 strikers works as there's not enough in attacking mid.

4231 or 4132 works, 4222 can work but not with our players. In a 4222 everyone has to work their bollocks off up and down the pitch at pace, most of our players aren't that way inclined.

 

[bacuzzi]

Re: Were in trouble

I think playing 2 strikers is a big part of the problem. It really takes away another player who could be pressing the ball high up the pitch. Which is what we are supposed to transitioning into, much like Liverpool do. I haven't seen much of this so far, certainly not effectively. Rather see Rodwell or Milner come into a midfield 3 which would give us more cover in the centre of the park. With Navas and Zab playing so wide we are a bit open in the middle of the pitch and Yaya isn't known for his defensive work. It's also keeping him out of the attacking area by playing him so deep. I haven't seen him really effect a game so far like he's done in the past. Dinho has played very passively so far which is bizarre. Don't know if this is a tactical decision by MP or he's just deferring to the established players.

Think you've hit the nail on the head with this post. (but we're not in the US)

 

[1961_vintage]

Re: Were in trouble

Spot-on that OP.

We were in trouble. Deep, brown and smelly type trouble.

Then 5 years ago along came Mansour bin Zayed Al Nahyan and the ADUG team, and now we're not in trouble.

Good news, well remembered.

 

[Limmer]

Re: Were in trouble

Meet my friend Mr Apostrophe ' .

Are they banned in thread titles? :)

 

[Vienna_70]

Re: Were in trouble

I think playing 2 strikers is a big part of the problem. It really takes away another player who could be pressing the ball high up the pitch. Which is what we are supposed to transitioning into, much like Liverpool do. I haven't seen much of this so far, certainly not effectively. Rather see Rodwell or Milner come into a midfield 3 which would give us more cover int he center of the park. With Navas and Zab playing so wide we are a bit open in the middle of the pitch and Yaya isn't known for his defensive work. It's also keeping him out of the attacking area by playing him so deep. I haven't seen him really effect a game so far like he's done in the past. Dinho has played very passively so far which is bizzare. Don't know if this is a tacticle decision by MP or he's just deffering to the established players.

I said to the Better Half this morning that we will have to bring either Milner or Rodwell into midfield for the better teams in the league and for the Champions' League fixtures.

 

[SWP's back]

Re: Were in trouble

Play shite and win...
What will happen when we click?
I'm absolutely petrified...

People were saying the same last season. We ended playing badly and dropping a lot of points. Don't bury your head in the sand.

what would you like to do?

 

[ayrshire_blue]

Re: Were in trouble

Play shite and win...
What will happen when we click?
I'm absolutely petrified...

People were saying the same last season. We ended playing badly and dropping a lot of points. Don't bury your head in the sand.

what would you like to do?

To beat Hull City a bit more convincingly, not necessarily in terms of the scoreline. On another day Hull could have won that and we'd have no reason to complain.

I hope Pellegrini can sort it out quick because a performance like that against one of the top 6 or 7 sides would almost certainly have been punished. We offered nothing pretty much all game, Negredo the only person in a blue shirt who played decent.

 

[Anonymous]

Re: Were in trouble

If we're in trouble then everyone is in trouble because nobody has impressed me so far.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QL15Ya5fsgo[/youtube]

 

[Bluekiwi]

Re: Were in trouble

If we're in trouble, what the f*** are Moyes and United in? :-)

Deep shit hopefully...actually the one shining beacon of light is that no one with perhaps the exception of Liverpool has played that well or with much conviction over the opening 3 games.

Which makes the Cardiff result even more annoying because we had the easiest start.

I actually think that playing promoted teams at the start of the season is harder than playing the EPL cellar dwellers. The promoted teams are keen and up for their "cup final" against the big teams so they give it a real go.

Having said that the performances in the last two games have been a great disappointment. I was led to believe that we would be playing a fast attacking style, we may leak a few goals but we'd score more than the opposition. Instead we got boring pedestrian tippy tappy rubbish.
I have my fingers crossed that once we get all players back from injury then my expectations will be fulfilled

 

[basokla]

Re: Were in trouble

The thing that saddens me the most is that Vinny went down on a fairly meaningless challenge.

Get well soon(er) Mr. Kompany.

 

[Mr. Aguia]

Re: Were in trouble

The thing that saddens me the most is that Vinny went down on a fairly meaningless challenge.

Get well soon(er) Mr. Kompany.

Yea but after all of us complaining at the lack of effort from most of the squad is it fair to slag off Vinnie for playing the full 90 like it means something to him? I wish the rest of the squad had his attitude.

 

[FlatlineMonday]

Re: Were in trouble

Different thread; same shit.

Let's slag off Lescott.

I'm not sure when Lescott became the latest boo boy. He's not the most gifted footballer of all time, but some of the stick he got today was out of order.

5 mins in today in Block 102 and some tedious bore was on his case. Non stop right up until the final whistle. I'm on the back row, so couldn't see/hear exactly where it was coming from. I'm amazed those sat around him have not had a word. No doubt he'd come back with "I pay my money, I'm entitled to my opinion".

Nobody thinks you're more passionate or insightful than the next fan because you slag off one of our players non stop for an hour and half. If you're on here and reading this, either get behind the team or do everyone a favour and shut the fck up.

That terrible header against QPR is going to follow him as long as he's playing for city.

 

[TGR]

Re: Were in trouble

The thing that saddens me the most is that Vinny went down on a fairly meaningless challenge.

Get well soon(er) Mr. Kompany.

What saddens me is from the evidence I have seen so far our whole season and its outcome appears to depend on the fitness and disciplinary record of one single player.

 

[Eccles Blue]

Re: Were in trouble

The thing that saddens me the most is that Vinny went down on a fairly meaningless challenge.

Get well soon(er) Mr. Kompany.

What saddens me is from the evidence I have seen so far our whole season and its outcome appears to depend on the fitness and disciplinary record of one single player.

Yes there are 11 people out on that pitch and they should be able to cover for the loss of one of their number when they are injured. Why are we paying them a fortune a week if they can't work together.

 

[TGR]

Re: Were in trouble

Different thread; same shit.

Let's slag off Lescott.

I'm not sure when Lescott became the latest boo boy. He's not the most gifted footballer of all time, but some of the stick he got today was out of order.

5 mins in today in Block 102 and some tedious bore was on his case. Non stop right up until the final whistle. I'm on the back row, so couldn't see/hear exactly where it was coming from. I'm amazed those sat around him have not had a word. No doubt he'd come back with "I pay my money, I'm entitled to my opinion".

Nobody thinks you're more passionate or insightful than the next fan because you slag off one of our players non stop for an hour and half. If you're on here and reading this, either get behind the team or do everyone a favour and shut the fck up.

That terrible header against QPR is going to follow him as long as he's playing for city.

The City fans need a boo boy. We always have done and always will do. It's in our DNA.

 

[eastmanc]

Re: Were in trouble

lescott has been great for us in his time here, unfortunately he has probably lost any pace he once had and now looks like he is past it, especially on the right hand side of the center back pairing, I do still believe at a push, partnering Vinny, he could still do a job. Having said all that thank God we have signed Demichelis, he looks a good un to me.

 

[Chippy_boy]

Re: Were in trouble

The thing that saddens me the most is that Vinny went down on a fairly meaningless challenge.

Get well soon(er) Mr. Kompany.

Yea but after all of us complaining at the lack of effort from most of the squad is it fair to slag off Vinnie for playing the full 90 like it means something to him? I wish the rest of the squad had his attitude.

More importantly, we cannot expect to compete in all competitions if we play like utter dross as soon as Kompany gets injured. Especially given the fact that he usually does get injured.

United ran us to the last day when we won it, having missed Vidic for 3/4 of the season and making do with Johnny Evans and Phil Jones FFS.

EDIT: Just saw your post =

What saddens me is from the evidence I have seen so far our whole season and its outcome appears to depend on the fitness and disciplinary record of one single player.

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