Were we this bad last time Kompany was out?

we pretty much lost the title last season with Kompany in the tunnel looking on. we'll need him fit to snatch it back from the rags. Demichelis provides only a temporary solution.

Southampton 3 City 1 certainly was painful to watch. Barry showed that he was in fact getting on. So off he goes..and he's probably not coming back
 
daxman said:
mammutly said:
MillionDollarDream said:
Because Demichelis is better and cheaper.

New players are always assumed to be better until proven otherwise. The longer they don't play, the better they get. Guddetti became a veritable superstar last season by not playing at all and if Jovetic doesn't feature soon, he'll end up the same.

Demichelis is defensive cover, same as Maicon was. He won't be a regular starter and is definitely no long term prospect.
It's a valid question as to why Kolo wasn't kept on for the same purpose. I think it was probably his choice to leave to get first team football.
The were 2 parts to that answer. 1) Demechelis is better. I suppose that is arguable, seeing as he hasn't played in the Prem yet. But he was deemed one of the best CDs in La Liga last season. So I suppose one could forgive me for the better remark. But how about reason # 2. He is cheaper! Now that is undeniable.

He is indeed cheaper, but that's not really relevant given the amounts involved and the budget available.

He's unproven in the Prem and coming towards the end of his career. Maybe he will be a storming success. I hope so.
 
daxman said:
We have never been good defensively. Our record was good (the best in the league). But a large portion of that often was our ability to hold on to the ball for long periods, in most games. Against teams who deny us that possession, we become frail. We should be a better early pressure team. If we are not, we will always be frail when counter attacked.

It is not any particular player or players: Kompany is way better than any other of our defenders, yet we are often still frail defensively, even when he is present. Barry, De Jong nor anyone else could do much to reduce that (sure Barry conceeded some fouls to stop the tide and De Jong put in a few crucnhing tackles here and there). But whether our defense was frail or not, was often a function of our posession. We are great defensively when we control possession for long period, deny the opposition the ball often, and defend then score. These are our best defensive qualities.

Contrary to popular belief, we are a team who for the most part needs to spot defend. I.e. Our defenders (especially in the league) will spend a greater portion of their time supporting possession, and initiating attacks, rather than defending.

This is why I have for years cried for a ball playing CD: It is why I wanted Luiz, wanted Vertonghen, still want Filipo Luis, and wanted Boateng to stay. Sure being a great defender is good, but for a team that will be pinning the opposition back as its primary form of defending, a good defender with great possession skills is way more important. Luckily for us, Kompany possesses both. Nastasic is good enough with both, and togeher we may keep up both possession (and by default a strong defense.)

We want a stronger defense? Possess the ball better, attack with better ball possession and chance creation, and we will!
Absolutely spot on.
 
CitytillIdie74 said:
No we were not this bad because we had Gareth Barry protecting the back 4 and doing everything defensive that Fernandinho and Yaya do not, why play them together in the same role when for me that role is crying out for Rodwell, he has the engine to go box to box and he knows how to defend. Now I'm not slagging off Yaya or Fernandinho but they have been plonked out of position and I don't think either of them know exactly what their role is!

And what the fuck did Gaz baz do to be dropped?
Absolute fucking nonsense. Fernandinho is box to box, Yaya is controlling, and they both know it. Simple as that. They're not out of position, Fernandinho made his name in the box to box role, and Yaya has played the controller for 12 months now. I wish people would fucking cop on.
 

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