West Ham 2016/17

problem seems to be based around people wanting to stand up in sitting areas and the club have sent in nightclub style doormen as stewards to police it. the move was never going to be sweetness and light as in a rush to fill the stadium and corporate sections they have alienated their core support. can see them playing to a half empty stadium soon as lots of their fans get fed up and stop going.
 
i worked for terry and ken brown in the 90s when west ham fans were protesting re the bonds scheme. they stood their ground then and yeah i agree most of us still go despite owners taking the proverbial etc. seems like a case of letting fans find their level and stewarding the stadium less vigorous.
 
stony said:
But our resident hammer said it was a huge success.
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Correct and I stand by that.

The Stadium and atmosphere is amazing. It was again a sell out yesterday (when people before start of season said it wouldn't be) plus for me personally - I can get to my house to kick off in 20 mins.

There is still teething issues - some pockets of fans are refusing to sit. I can see there point if they been used to standing at Upton Park all there lives - so this is causing some issues and also lack of policing to deal with the drink idiots we have. Once the dust has settled all will be fine.
 
BlueHammer85 said:
Correct and I stand by that.

The Stadium and atmosphere is amazing. It was again a sell out yesterday (when people before start of season said it wouldn't be) plus for me personally - I can get to my house to kick off in 20 mins.

There is still teething issues - some pockets of fans are refusing to sit. I can see there point if they been used to standing at Upton Park all there lives - so this is causing some issues and also lack of policing to deal with the drink idiots we have. Once the dust has settled all will be fine.
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Every time I see it on the telly it just isn't for me. Way too far from the pitch. The big teams are gonna love it there tho on the nice big pitch. Problem West Ham will have is maintaining interest, especially if they have a couple of poor seasons. Like many big clubs they've got the fan base to fill the place but last season created a lot of optimism and fans are fickle.
 
I thought it was gonna be closer to the pitch with the retractable seating? Either way it looks terrible. Not nice the Hammers fans throwing a coin at the toddler and scraping. You'd think when you get a stadium for free you wouldn't complain about having some police there
 
Someone posted a clip of some West Ham fans talking about the game up here. They mentioned how good our fans were treated by the club, and said that our stewards were excellent and a lot better than the ones at their gaff. They said that the stewards weren't employed by the club and there were problems. So, it's not as if they didn't know there were problems.
 
This could turn into a complete disaster for West Ham if it's not sorted before a high risk team turn up.

The segregation is extremely flimsy. There is anecdotal evidence of West Ham season ticket holders having to enter the stadium through the away turnstiles, walk through the away concourse and then get let through a gate into the West Ham end! That might work in Germany but not over here, though I'm not sure if this is intentional or just piss poor planning.

The actual Olympic park itself is difficult to police given the sheer size of it. Lots of nooks and crannies apparently and poor cctv coverage.

This isn't middle England turning up watch a hockey match. You can imagine the likes of Chelsea and Spurs turning up and it becoming a battle ground.
 
The Northern Baptist said:
This could turn into a complete disaster for West Ham if it's not sorted before a high risk team turn up.

The segregation is extremely flimsy. There is anecdotal evidence of West Ham season ticket holders having to enter the stadium through the away turnstiles, walk through the away concourse and then get let through a gate into the West Ham end! That might work in Germany but not over here, though I'm not sure if this is intentional or just piss poor planning.

The actual Olympic park itself is difficult to police given the sheer size of it. Lots of nooks and crannies apparently and poor cctv coverage.

This isn't middle England turning up watch a hockey match. You can imagine the likes of Chelsea and Spurs turning up and it becoming a battle ground.
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From talking to some West Ham fans, that genuinely seems to be the fear.
 
Was talking to a Hammers fan on the walk back to town after our game with them...He said the general consensus is most hate it

I personally think it's just teething problems...I don't think many of us were particularly enamored when we first moved
 
gkmcfc said:
Every time I see it on the telly it just isn't for me. Way too far from the pitch. The big teams are gonna love it there tho on the nice big pitch. Problem West Ham will have is maintaining interest, especially if they have a couple of poor seasons. Like many big clubs they've got the fan base to fill the place but last season created a lot of optimism and fans are fickle.
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I've not seen it on telly yet as I've been to all home games - but from my own personal point of view. The stadium is amazing, atmosphere is great and my seats are really not far from the pitch, never beat the view I had at Upton Park mind - I am in the Top Band so those with cheaper tickets may have a different point of view. The group I go with all love it same as me - Westfield has loads of good bars to have drink and places to eat, the transport for me take 10 mins on train from Ebbsfleet right next to where I live.

Upton Park was a bloody nightmare, used to drive, get stuck at the Blackwall tunnel and couldn't drink - plus in the last 5-6 years there was very few places to drink - atmosphere wise it was dead unless playing one of the big boys or a local derby.

I can understand other West Ham fans not sharing this view - especially older ones who seem to live on never ending nostalgia about Upton Park, the same that harp on about the 'west ham way' and now probably getting tanked up and refusing to sit (when it's premier league and Olympic stadium rules)

Either way, the media and social forums are hyping the situation worse than it is. Yes there's still some stuff the owners have to sort out, particularly policing situation as the stewards seem powerless - it's just a shame nowadays we need to have that concern at all. Can only take a handful of drunk idiots out of 56,000 to cause a scene.
 
Problem is 20000 of those going will not be regulars. If you think we get stick for empty seats wait a few months. West Ham will be getting 40000.
 
worsleyweb said:
Problem is 20000 of those going will not be regulars. If you think we get stick for empty seats wait a few months. West Ham will be getting 40000.
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Thats all i heard since we went for the stadium - 'they will never fill it out' 'it will be half empty' - now its, in a few months we'll be 40,000 - i cant see it personally, we have a huge fan base and a huge waiting list.
 
BlueHammer85 said:
Thats all i heard since we went for the stadium - 'they will never fill it out' 'it will be half empty' - now its, in a few months we'll be 40,000 - i cant see it personally, we have a huge fan base and a huge waiting list.
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You do - but thousands of your tickets have been sold at 99 season tickets. Reading KUMB last night and already after just a few games one bloke was quoting huge rows of empties. We have the same issue but to a much lesser extent. When you are 12th or 14th with nothing to play for an a night game - thouands of those £99 season tickets will not attend. Wait and see. Not saying you don't have large support. West Ham have been my second team for 25 years and i loved my trips to Upton Park. Was disgusted at many of your fans when we played the other week mind.
 
BlueHammer85 said:
Thats all i heard since we went for the stadium - 'they will never fill it out' 'it will be half empty' - now its, in a few months we'll be 40,000 - i cant see it personally, we have a huge fan base and a huge waiting list.
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Chatting to an Hammer on holiday, we watched City vs WHU in a bar together, and he loves the new stadium, but said that was trouble brewing with regard to some supporters that want to stand and others who want to sit and are having their view blocked

As for the stadium is full.
From our experience of moving into a new stadium and the euphoria that came with it, this also followed a great two years under Kevin Keegan, but when we started to become mediocre and the novelty of the stadium died off we were then attaining crowds of 35-38000
I guarantee this is what will happen at your club

As for the season tickets at £99, although this is quite spectacular it also means that to miss a game has only cost the season ticket holder a fiver, so there's very little incentive to turn up vs Burnley on a cold December Tuesday night if you're still in a similar position at the lower end of the table
 
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