Whaley Bridge shooting

[Alan Harper's Tash]

Highlighted the farmer’s error.

Unless the scrote was reaching for a weapon.

See above.

If we’re adding in hypotheticals, any verdict is possible.

 

[hilts]

It will, but only to the point of a non verdict and a potential retrial. I can’t imagine 10/12 ignoring the law because of having sympathy with the defendant.

Yeah I agree with that, but I think he has a good case for diminished responsibility

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

Yeah I agree with that, but I think he has a good case for diminished responsibility

He might, it’d be up to his defence counsel to convince the jury. They’d probably be wanting to be more sympathetic than if they were on the samurai sword child killer jury.

 

[City Hobgoblin]

Maybe the householder thought it was either shoot the intruders, or get a crime number and an unfulfilled promise to come round and dust for fingerprints.

 

[fulabeer]

Here you go.
Just read up on the MEN site. Like clockwork!

""He was a Resident DJ here and we are devastated at your loss he was much loved by everyone who met him, he was a funny, polite, well mannered, charming young man who will be extremely missed by everyone, our thoughts, wishes and prayers to you all."

Missed by everyone???
Well the guy who shot him while being robbed didn't miss him. Just did the world a favour.

The funeral will be like some returning war hero as well...

 

[ChicagoBlue]

If we’re adding in hypotheticals, any verdict is possible.

I was merely pointing out that there are instances where a shot in the back can be deemed defensive, based on both distance and the actions of the victim.

I’m sure the British justice system will take care of this matter in its own way.

 

[blueish swede]

It must have happened at some point, jury get together decide he is guilty of the offence but think fuck that due to the circumstances. At the end of the day as a juror you can give any verdict you want. I think sometimes it's why they go for the easier manslaughter charge.

Couple of years in an open prison seems about right. He can probably never live in his farm again.

* this is all based on the events put in the thread.

1670, I believe and it has been a cornerstone of the English legal system ever since. It's called Jury nullification and is based on the jury's absolute right to return a verdict as they see fit. It works because Juries can't be prosecuted for the verdict they deliver and the accused can't be subject to double jeopardy. It is one of the stronger arguments, I think, for having jury trials and not a panel of judges, as is common in many European coutries.

 

[ChicagoBlue]

Here you go.
Just read up on the MEN site. Like clockwork!

""He was a Resident DJ here and we are devastated at your loss he was much loved by everyone who met him, he was a funny, polite, well mannered, charming young man who will be extremely missed by everyone, our thoughts, wishes and prayers to you all."

Missed by everyone???
Well the guy who shot him while being robbed didn't miss him. Just did the world a favour.

He was just having a bad day, amiright?!!

 

[hilts]

1670, I believe and it has been a cornerstone of the English legal system ever since. It's called Jury nullification and is based on the jury's absolute right to return a verdict as they see fit. It works because Juries can't be prosecuted for the verdict they deliver and the accused can't be subject to double jeopardy. It is one of the stronger arguments, I think, for having jury trials and not a panel of judges, as is common in many European coutries.

I'd love to be on a jury I'm like the reverse Henry Fonda(young people will be puzzled by this analogy)

 

[GaudinoMotors]

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. We had a fairly high profile case in Mayo nearly twenty years ago...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_John_Ward

Padraig Nally became a bit of a hero to folk living in rural Ireland, particularly those living alone who were afraid of becoming victims of burglary. Out from his family, I doubt there were many tears shed for the "victim".

Surely it should cross the criminal fraternities minds that farmers may have guns and possibly don't want to talk about childhood issues and have a counselling session first.