Whaley Bridge shooting

It is. What is also simple is that if they didn’t choose to go and break into his house that night, they would be alive the next day, both of them that is, and one without serious injury.

Doing a bit it reading now, Martin claimed to have been burgled ten times prior, with the police doing very little. No way of proving that, just like it was only the prosecution who claimed he was lying in wait on the stairs. No way of knowing if that is true, however if the ten break ins were true would you blame anyone for being a little bit paranoid of what might happen each night?

I’m glad he did what he did. No break in, no shooting.
I agree the burglars were a pair of cunts and he was let down by the police previously, but that doesn't give you the right to get hold of an illegal firearm and kill someone in cold blood mate.

We're not America.

Like I said, everyone involved was a total fuckwit and on the balance of it probably all got what they had coming to them.
 
I agree the burglars were a pair of cunts and he was let down by the police previously, but that doesn't give you the right to get hold of an illegal firearm and kill someone in cold blood mate.

We're not America.
Agree to disagree as, like you say, there were no innocent parties and I completely acknowledge he broke the law.

For me though one less twat off the street and another who probably has a daily reminder of how not to break into peoples houses.
 
I remember many years ago seeing a metal sign on someone's garden wall saying this house is protected by Tony Martin security services.
Made me laugh.
 
Mr martin...put a lamp beam on em at the foot of his stairs and they never bolted...carried on up...theyd travelled 70miles ( from memory) for this bit of graft.

He should have shot em again...down the mouth.
 
My daughters know these lads.
They broke in the night before and apparently nicked 20k.
Went back the next day to nick his guns so they could Rob a farm not far away that has a big weed grow.
Only thing is they told every fucker they were going back.
The farmer was waiting shot one point blank in the face apparently.
But he's been charged with pre meditated murder.
He had been broken into 17 times in the last 2 years and told the police next time I will shoot them.
He's meant to be a really nice guy .
Little bastards got what they deserved
If that’s correct, he’s going to get 30 years minimum.
 
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...says-no-regrets-20-years-killing-burglar.html

Good he has no regrets. Guy is a hero as far as I’m concerned.
If I remember rightly, hadn't he reported incidents to the police plenty of times already? I can imagine that increasingly being the case. People simply getting fed up living in a society where criminals can do whatever the fuck they want and the police won't do anything unless the thing stolen is valuable enough.

Wouldn't surprise me if this case is similar in that respect.
 
If that’s correct, he’s going to get 30 years minimum.
So my daughter said.
And I've heard the same thing off some lads I know who by weed off these lads.
Well they did do .
Won't be any more.
And the lad who was injured died last last so he's killed two.
Poor bloke if the coppers did something in the first place it wouldn't have happened
 
If I remember rightly, hadn't he reported incidents to the police plenty of times already? I can imagine that increasingly being the case. People simply getting fed up living in a society where criminals can do whatever the fuck they want and the police won't do anything unless the thing stolen is valuable enough.

Wouldn't surprise me if this case is similar in that respect.

Looks like they were that frequent he knew they were coming, if it's true that the police knew about it then IMHO that's on them.
 
So my daughter said.
And I've heard the same thing off some lads I know who by weed off these lads.
Well they did do .
Won't be any more.
And the lad who was injured died last last so he's killed two.
Poor bloke if the coppers did something in the first place it wouldn't have happened
It’s a crap situation to have been put in, but if he’s told them that he was expecting them back and that he’d shoot them, then the premeditated murder with a firearm tariff starts at 30 years.

Sounds like the burglars found their karma, but as you say, it sounds as though they should have been behind bars a long time ago.

Guess he reached the end of his tether and when peolke snap, they’re capable of anything.
 
So my daughter said.
And I've heard the same thing off some lads I know who by weed off these lads.
Well they did do .
Won't be any more.
And the lad who was injured died last last so he's killed two.
Poor bloke if the coppers did something in the first place it wouldn't have happened
hope you've told your daughter she needs to reevaluate the sorts of people who are in her orbit?
 
It’s a crap situation to have been put in, but if he’s told them that he was expecting them back and that he’d shoot them, then the premeditated murder with a firearm tariff starts at 30 years.

Sounds like the burglars found their karma, but as you say, it sounds as though they should have been behind bars a long time ago.

Guess he reached the end of his tether and when peolke snap, they’re capable of anything.
I wonder how a jury will see it?
 
This country is fucked the other day the loon with the sword in London that should be a call to the armed response unit.Shoot the fucker dead menace to society.This would prevent dead child and 2 stabbed policemen.We are too soft in this country.There has to be a deterrant.The woke and do gooders can all go and fuck themselves scrotes need dealing with end of.
 
This country is fucked the other day the loon with the sword in London that should be a call to the armed response unit.Shoot the fucker dead menace to society.This would prevent dead child and 2 stabbed policemen.We are too soft in this country.There has to be a deterrant.The woke and do gooders can all go and fuck themselves scrotes need dealing with end of.
lol I don't disagree but shit policing has nothing to do with "woke and do gooders" and everything to do with chronic poor investment and bad management of the police going back years.
 
This country is fucked the other day the loon with the sword in London that should be a call to the armed response unit.Shoot the fucker dead menace to society.This would prevent dead child and 2 stabbed policemen.We are too soft in this country.There has to be a deterrant.The woke and do gooders can all go and fuck themselves scrotes need dealing with end of.
Where do you draw the line? Would you advocate shoplifters being shot in the face at point blank range?

How about fare dodgers on the tram?
 
Fortunately, we don’t use the US legal system.
I honestly don't know the ins and outs of our Jury system, so all of this is supposition on my part.

I do know that juries in this country are unpredictable. In the Bristol Colston statue case the jury returned a not guilty verdict when it seemed the four defendants were clearly guilty of criminal damage.

So if the jury in this case shared the views expressed by @LangleyBlue1970 and @GaudinoMotors on this thread could the result be not guilty?

Genuinely interested in knowing more about this.
 

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