PragueBlue
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I suspect most will open up for the Summer at least but it will perhaps depend on how their case and vaccine numbers are by then.
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What’s the first holiday you’re booking when restrictions are gone?
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I suspect most will open up for the Summer at least but it will perhaps depend on how their case and vaccine numbers are by then.
Don't see other countries in Europe opening themselves up anytime soon on that scale.
Holiday in UK is probably best to be hoped for.
I also think its the right thing to do. Let other countries get back to some kind of normality. I know a lot rely on tourism but I imagine they could do with getting their shit in order before they open up. Also think spending your money in the UK, locally and in other towns is a faster way to get things moving again.
Plus this country is fucking beautiful. Much better than a weeks all inclusive in Tenerife or Alcudia.
abu13
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I'll be happy to go to a Tier 2 area.
Don't see other countries in Europe opening themselves up anytime soon on that scale.
Holiday in UK is probably best to be hoped for.
I would be pretty amazed if vaccines don't become requirement for entry. They already exist for Yellow Fever, as anyone who's travelled to South America can tell you, if you haven't had it, you're not getting in.
Full vaccination + a negative nasal swab to ensure you're not carrying the virus will probably be enough to get people let in. That's a pretty fool proof way of preventing the virus being transmitted by tourists and is much more realistic than the 14 day quarantines going on before christmas.
We already had negative nasal swabs as a condition to travel so that's not a road block.
It might not apply to Northern Europe, but parts of Southern Europe and further abroad, countries desperately need the tourism money. Thailand is begging people to come because roughly 25% of their economy is tourism.
tolmie's hairdoo
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I would be pretty amazed if vaccine passports don't become a thing. They already exist for Yellow Fever, as anyone who's travelled to South America can tell you, if you haven't had it, you're not getting in.
Full vaccination + a negative nasal swab to ensure you're not carrying the virus will probably be enough to get people let in.
We already had negative nasal swabs as a condition to travel so that's not unlikely.
It might not apply to Northern Europe, but parts of Southern Europe and further abroad, countries desperately need the tourism money. Thailand is begging people to come because roughly 25% of their economy is tourism.
I suppose a few countries will already be deciding if the risk is worth the trade off for the sake of the economy.
I suppose a few countries will already be deciding if the risk is worth the trade off for the sake of the economy.
In theory, full vaccine and a negative nasal swab is pretty much zero risk.
The worry about vaccinated people spreading the virus is that some vaccines don't give mucosal immunity - which means the virus can live on your mucous membranes and only gets wiped out when it tries to cross that into your bloodstream, but while its on the outside, coughing, sneezing etc. can still spread it. Ie you can carry it.
The nasal swab tests the mucous membrane in your nose, so if you are fully vaccinated and you test negative in a nasal swab, unless you get a false negative (which are really rare), there's nowhere for the virus to be.
I can imagine countries going from a 14 day quarantine (essentially making holidays impossible) to a 48h quarantine with a negative nasal swab at the end for vaccinated people.
But then of course there's the issue that who's going to be vaccinated in time? The groups being given the jab now aren't really travellers and families can't go anywhere if the kids aren't vaccinated until 2022.
tolmie's hairdoo
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I believe full vaccine and a negative nasal swab is pretty much zero risk.
The worry about vaccinated people spreading the virus is that some vaccines don't give mucosal immunity - which means the virus can live on your mucous membranes and only gets wiped out when it tries to cross that into your bloodstream, but while its on the outside, coughing, sneezing etc. can still spread it.
The nasal swab tests the mucous membrane in your nose, so if you are fully vaccinated and you test negative in a nasal swab, unless you get a false negative (which are really rare), there's nowhere for the virus to be.
I suppose the main issue for Europe is being able to travel across borders by car or train, surely you would need to be tested for each country you arrive in?
I think you might struggle to see them in October . You should do some research.looking at a cruise to the northern lights in October .
PragueBlue
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I suppose the main issue for Europe is being able to travel across borders by car or train, surely you would need to be tested for each country you arrive in?
I would imagine there would be spot checks, as at present.