What City player was most over rated by our own fans

[peoffrey]

The biggest hype was Balo. Too many loved his antics,instead of his playing ability.For all those who claimed he was the dogs bollocks,I bet I could name the number of decent games on one hand.

But, but, but he scored penalties

He wore sportswear and had antisocial behaviour. Why would he fit in amongst certain elements of our core support?

 

[gmckennasell]

Clive Allen , never understood the fervour over this guy , was a good goal poacher , but contributed nothing apart from a few tap-ins , never thought he was a team player , and his fall out with peter reid/sam ellis for some reason made him popular with supporters.<br /><br />-- Wed Aug 07, 2013 9:00 pm --<br /><br />Clive Allen , never understood the fervour over this guy , was a good goal poacher , but contributed nothing apart from a few tap-ins , never thought he was a team player , and his fall out with peter reid/sam ellis for some reason made him popular with supporters.

 

[Mcfcsule91]

Robinho....

Good player yes, but what a cock.

 

[Shaelumstash]

Not sure I could disagree more if I tried. Nobody ever thought Dickov was anything other than a hard working but overall thoroughly average footballer. However at the time we probably didn't need technically gifted footballers as much as we needed fucking workmen like him who could help us scrap our way out of where we were. Certainly I don't remember anyone at the time being resentful of having to pay to watch him in particular play.

You say we needed the "fucking workmen" to help us "scrap our way out of where we were." Have you ever considered that is was the "fucking workmen's" fault that we got there in the first place?!

I can't remember many of the players at that level at the time, but off the top of my head, we could have signed Carl Asaba for £600k (£400k less than Dickov) and he scored nearly double the amount of goals!

Scrapping only gets you so far, and in our case it was that we dropped like a stone to the 3rd division, and struggled to get out of it. We had a team of scrappers when Keegan came in, and he took one look at Dickov and said that he wasn't good enough for the 2nd division and fucked him right off. We went on to play some of the best football I've ever seen at City. Not many "fucking workmen" in that team, but plenty of talent and ability.

Then Pearce came in, re-signed Little Dicky and a load of "fucking workmen" and we nearly got relegated. There's a running theme here.

If you look at the budgets that Royle and Pearce had compared with Keegan you would be amazed. I agree with billy. We needed grit and determination to get back up the divisions. Most of the team that were part of that squad are considered heroes in my eyes. Weaver, weikens, Horlock, Morrison, Whitley and Goater will always be considered legends to me. They saved a club that was a sinking ship and helped us back on the road to recovery. Then when Keegan came along he was working with much bigger budgets and brought in different types of players which was good to some extent until he started bring in average/past it players on big wages like the pointer, sibierski, fowler etc.

I think you are missing the point. We didn't have a bunch of champagne Charlies in Royle's first season and then buy a load of gritty determined players for the play off final!

It was essentially the same group of players who managed to get us relegated to the 3rd Division who got us back up!

Weaver, Weikens, Horlock, Whitley, Goater and Dickov were in the side that got relegated from the 2nd Division to the 3rd! And you call them "legends"!!! Unbelievable!

I actually liked Weaver, Weikens, Horlock and Goater, but calling them "legends" is completely over the top.

Far from "saving the sinking ship" these players, and Dickov especially, were the very players who helped to sink it! It was their fault we fell to such awful depths because they weren't good enough footballers.

I'm sure they're all nice lads and did their best, tried their hardest. But the thread isn't about who was the hardest working / grittiest. It's about who is the most overrated.

Dickov is considered by the majority as a "legend" despite being one of the worst players in our history, so by definition he is overrated.

 

[Pigeonho]

The biggest hype was Balo. Too many loved his antics,instead of his playing ability.For all those who claimed he was the dogs bollocks,I bet I could name the number of decent games on one hand.

Good man.

 

[Deleted member 52846]

Theres definitely a few on the wind up in this thread...

Not really. You could say Messi is overrated but still think he's the best player since Maradonna. Just that you don't think he's the best player ever like some suggest.

Some people have said Silva. Nowt wrong with that. I've heard some rate him as good as Iniesta but he isn't.

These are examples of people possibly being overrated. It doesn't mean the players aren't good, just not as good as the top end evaluations may say.

Personally I do think Messi is the best player ever. Silva is fantastic but he's just below the Kompany/Iniesta/Ibrahimovic level of player.

 

[Joburg Hero]

Kinkladze, by far. I've seen people comparing him to Messi and claiming he'd be one of the world's best if he played for Real Madrid lmfao. Complete joke it really is, there's a reason he played for City and Derby, and didn't get the move to Real Madrid. Good technical player, but honestly, he was not a 30 goal per season player or a player who had a magnificent creator who had the final ball, he was just a good dribbler who could take your breath away with a moment of magic, nothing more than the Rosicky of the 90s.

 

[Pigeonho]

Kinkladze, by far. I've seen people comparing him to Messi and claiming he'd be one of the world's best if he played for Real Madrid lmfao. Complete joke it really is, there's a reason he played for City and Derby, and didn't get the move to Real Madrid. Good technical player, but honestly, he was not a 30 goal per season player or a player who had a magnificent creator who had the final ball, he was just a good dribbler who could take your breath away with a moment of magic, nothing more than the Rosicky of the 90s.

It's fair to say that anyone who compared Kinky to Messi doesn't really know what they're talking about, and are best left ignored. That doesn't mean though that because someone has said that, it means Kinky was overrated. All that means is, as I say, the person doesn't know what they're talking about.

 

[Joburg Hero]

Yeh, which is why is followed with "Good technical player, but honestly, he was not a 30 goal per season player or a player who had a magnificent creator who had the final ball, he was just a good dribbler who could take your breath away with a moment of magic, nothing more than the Rosicky of the 90s."

I've given him credit, he was a good player, but he's a cult hero with the majority of City fans and it's thoroughly undeserved on a footballing basis. Nasri is a much better player than Kinkladze ever was.

 

[Pigeonho]

Yeh, which is why is followed with "Good technical player, but honestly, he was not a 30 goal per season player or a player who had a magnificent creator who had the final ball, he was just a good dribbler who could take your breath away with a moment of magic, nothing more than the Rosicky of the 90s."

I've given him credit, he was a good player, but he's a cult hero with the majority of City fans and it's thoroughly undeserved on a footballing basis. Nasri is a much better player than Kinkladze ever was.

That's why Nasri cost what he cost, and Kinky cost what he cost. The eras are different, too. We would never have bought a player of Nasri's worth and quality when we were as shit as we were then, same as we would never buy Kinkladze now that we attract the players of Nasri's ilk. Kinkladze was a revelation in the fact we now had on our hands a player who could do what he did. As I said earlier in the thread, it's no surprise he was compared to Juninho, and to be compared to him just emphasises how good Kinkladze really was. So when people say he was overrated, overrated in what way? Because he was the best player we had for years and could score goals like the one v Southampton?