What class are city fans? Upper, Middle or Lower?

[nevblue]

Class does not = money and never has.

 

[ManCityFC]

first class. nowadays, working class is no longer at the bottom. below us is the lower class. those chavvy scumbags like my next-door-but-ones, who've never done a day's work in their lives. city fans are working class with a sprinkling of middle and a dash of upper.

This.

 

[Why Always Ste]

I believe in a classless society so I would have to say that I am none of the above. However, I would suggest that we all do things and/or act in a way which would 'put us into' at least more than 1 of the classes.

All the surveys ever done on the income of Premier League fans by club indicate we're very much towards the lower end, which would imply working class.

-- Sat Sep 18, 2010 8:11 am --


So you'd say there's perfect equality of opportunity would you? That the circumstances you were born into in no way affect your outcome in life? Hope not because there's a mountain of evidence against that, Britain being particularly bad with respect to the rest of western Europe.

Maybe yes, but there are plenty of people from 'lower' backgrounds who go on to be much more sucessful in life than someone from a much more affluent background.

I never said The enviroment you grow into doesn't have an effect on your life and the choices you make, I did point out that there are somethings I do in my life that one would consider upperclass and that there are some things I do that one would consider lowerclass.

With the likes of the internet being far more accessible in this country we are provided with anything we want to know, we can either choose to use this facility to talk shit and watch porn or we can educate ourselves and view others opinions. through education you can release yourself of your label and quite easily adapt into most if not all sections of society.

Education is also class based yes but its also about making choices... Do I spend £10,000 a year on cigarettes and alcohol or do I spend this on private education for my children?
Sure people with more money can do both but do you really need those things?
if you do then you are forever confined to the shackles of being a slave for the true upper class

 

[Skashion]

Anybody earning less than 100k per year odd is just working class. Anyone that chooses to live off the state and survive on dole is what I wood deem self inflicted lower class, but perversely, a lot of these slobs earn like the working classes. This is pathetic and a nasty hangover from a socialist government.

Which socialist government would that be?<br /><br />-- Sat Sep 18, 2010 11:12 am --<br /><br />

Class does not = money and never has.

True, but there is correlation.

 

[sam221985]

The old class divisions aren't anywhere near as relevant or reliable now are they? After Thatcher era everything changed....perhaps even started before then as the traditional heavy industries were already on the way out etc...

We're a service industry based society now and one where all of the old social classes can and do easily access university, I'd say it's all becoming a lot more vague.

 

[Anonymous]

i'm gutter class

i'll do anything for a foaming pint and a curry.

 

[jpl]

im middle cos i live in failsworth

 

[pierod]

Education is also class based yes but its also about making choices... Do I spend £10,000 a year on cigarettes and alcohol or do I spend this on private education for my children?

This is a good point - many people would not spend money on education for their children citing their own narrow and limited experience in education. On top of this is the tendency in all people to externalise problems, that is, blame someone/something else, "I'm broke because...", "I smoke because...", "I went to prison because...", "My rehabiliation failed because...". Ironically parents get the blame most of the time, followed closely by government/authorities. Not saying they're not to blame much of the time, but some responsibility lies in the individual to break out of shackles marked "class" by not perpetuating the system through the generations.

 

[Skashion]

The old class divisions aren't anywhere near as relevant or reliable now are they? After Thatcher era everything changed....perhaps even started before then as the traditional heavy industries were already on the way out etc...

We're a service industry based society now and one where all of the old social classes can and do easily access university, I'd say it's all becoming a lot more vague.

Perceptions of class have changed and that is a massive victory for Thatcherism. They've convinced people that a person's background simply doesn't matter anymore. This notion has attained hegemony, particularly amongst those born during or after Thatcher. The reality is completely different. Social mobility, empirically, has, since 1979, been static over long-term and woeful in comparison to the vast majority of the countries we usually compare ourselves to. The failure to increase social mobility in this country, is, in my opinion, the biggest long-term failure of this country and a shocking comment on the governments of the past thirty years.

 

[MaChine]

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