What Conspiracy Theories Do You Believe In?

Crouchinho said:
Cheesy said:
Resurrection said:
one of my favourites to deal with is when stupid people insist that vaccinations arent helpful and harm people.. and are all part of a money making conspiracy!!

This one actually annoys the fuck out of me. Most conspiracy theories are pretty harmless. This one however is downright dangerous as there are people out there who believe this crap about vaccinations and therefore refuse to have their kids protected against diseases that, in the worst case, can kill.

There have been cases in Italy where parents have been paid compensation for kids having autism or negative effects from the MMR vaccine. I guess there is a small minority where young children can't handle the mercury in the vaccine

My doctor here is always asking me to get a flu shot, for everybody he stabs he gets a nice little earner from the government (works out just under 20 quid per shot) . With so many strains of every sickness I wouldn't want to fill my body with a heavy metal then get ill later on!

I don't know anything about compensation claims and quite frankly don't really care as they aren't awarded through scientific consensus.

The original study linking autism with the MMR vaccine was an absolute abomination. It was probably one of the most harmful studies anybody in the scientific community has produced when it comes to the real world effect on the public.

It was a study conducted by a man (Andrew Wakefield) who was being financed by legal teams to find a link between the two. He also had patents filed for the single shot alternative version of the vaccine. He recruited his study participants, he conducted unethical and unauthorised tests, his method was poor, his conclusions were fraudulent and as a result he (quite rightfully) was stripped of his medical license. He can no longer practice medicine and he never will again.

Since this ONE fabricated study, there have been hundreds of rigorous in depth studies, designed both to refute the original study by Wakefield and also attempt to find a connection between the MMR vaccine and autism. In total hundreds of studies have analysed data from over 25,782,000 children across multiple countries using a variety of techniques... not one, not a single one of those studies, (I can't describe to you the zeal with which I'm stressing zero here) has found a link between the two. It's taken all that to try and dispell a myth started by one man with a strong financial motive.

As a result of this, cases of measles and whooping cough are escalating to a rate not seen for years. Children are dying.

If people still aren't sure if vaccines cause autism or not then please visit this site for more information:

How Do Vaccines Cause Autism?
 
SkyBlueFlux said:
Crouchinho said:
Cheesy said:
This one actually annoys the fuck out of me. Most conspiracy theories are pretty harmless. This one however is downright dangerous as there are people out there who believe this crap about vaccinations and therefore refuse to have their kids protected against diseases that, in the worst case, can kill.

There have been cases in Italy where parents have been paid compensation for kids having autism or negative effects from the MMR vaccine. I guess there is a small minority where young children can't handle the mercury in the vaccine

My doctor here is always asking me to get a flu shot, for everybody he stabs he gets a nice little earner from the government (works out just under 20 quid per shot) . With so many strains of every sickness I wouldn't want to fill my body with a heavy metal then get ill later on!

I don't know anything about compensation claims and quite frankly don't really care as they aren't awarded through scientific consensus.

The original study linking autism with the MMR vaccine was an absolute abomination. It was probably one of the most harmful studies anybody in the scientific community has produced when it comes to the real world effect on the public.

It was a study conducted by a man (Andrew Wakefield) who was being financed by legal teams to find a link between the two. He also had patents filed for the single shot alternative version of the vaccine. He recruited his study participants, he conducted unethical and unauthorised tests, his method was poor, his conclusions were fraudulent and as a result he (quite rightfully) was stripped of his medical license. He can no longer practice medicine and he never will again.

Since this ONE fabricated study, there have been hundreds of rigorous in depth studies, designed both to refute the original study by Wakefield and also attempt to find a connection between the MMR vaccine and autism. In total hundreds of studies have analysed data from over 25,782,000 children across multiple countries using a variety of techniques... not one, not a single one of those studies, (I can't describe to you the zeal with which I'm stressing zero here) has found a link between the two. It's taken all that to try and dispell a myth started by one man with a strong financial motive.

As a result of this, cases of measles and whooping cough are escalating to a rate not seen for years. Children are dying.

If people still aren't sure if vaccines cause autism or not then please visit this site for more information:

How Do Vaccines Cause Autism?


SBF that's a great post and articulated exactly what I was thinking. How are you btw?
 
BlueBearBoots said:
SkyBlueFlux said:
Crouchinho said:
There have been cases in Italy where parents have been paid compensation for kids having autism or negative effects from the MMR vaccine. I guess there is a small minority where young children can't handle the mercury in the vaccine

My doctor here is always asking me to get a flu shot, for everybody he stabs he gets a nice little earner from the government (works out just under 20 quid per shot) . With so many strains of every sickness I wouldn't want to fill my body with a heavy metal then get ill later on!

I don't know anything about compensation claims and quite frankly don't really care as they aren't awarded through scientific consensus.

The original study linking autism with the MMR vaccine was an absolute abomination. It was probably one of the most harmful studies anybody in the scientific community has produced when it comes to the real world effect on the public.

It was a study conducted by a man (Andrew Wakefield) who was being financed by legal teams to find a link between the two. He also had patents filed for the single shot alternative version of the vaccine. He recruited his study participants, he conducted unethical and unauthorised tests, his method was poor, his conclusions were fraudulent and as a result he (quite rightfully) was stripped of his medical license. He can no longer practice medicine and he never will again.

Since this ONE fabricated study, there have been hundreds of rigorous in depth studies, designed both to refute the original study by Wakefield and also attempt to find a connection between the MMR vaccine and autism. In total hundreds of studies have analysed data from over 25,782,000 children across multiple countries using a variety of techniques... not one, not a single one of those studies, (I can't describe to you the zeal with which I'm stressing zero here) has found a link between the two. It's taken all that to try and dispell a myth started by one man with a strong financial motive.

As a result of this, cases of measles and whooping cough are escalating to a rate not seen for years. Children are dying.

If people still aren't sure if vaccines cause autism or not then please visit this site for more information:

How Do Vaccines Cause Autism?


SBF that's a great post and articulated exactly what I was thinking. How are you btw?

Thanks BBB, it's a subject I'm quite passionate about as you can probably tell. It would be reasonable to question government funded vaccination schemes, if the arguments had some kind of basis. I've never seen a single cogent argument or proof suggesting that vaccinations do anything other than save lives (8m per year, there or there abouts). All the arguments I see are poorly reasoned, flawed, scare-mongering. The above being a classic example.

"There's mercury in some vaccines"

And? There's chlorine in table salt, there's fluorine in toothpaste, cheese is filled with ammonia! Mercury is in tuna ffs, I've eaten it nearly twice a week for about 20 years. On its own the statement just means nothing. There's no evidence to suggest the mercury (or more accurately thimerosal which is actually a mercury compound) causes any harm whatsoever, and we've been using it and studying it all over the world since the 1930s.

As for me, well I took my doctor's advice, and whilst he won't be right 100% of the time, his team of medical professionals have done an excellent job at getting me back on my feet in no time at all. Medical science, hey? Not so scary after all.

Hope you're well!
 
The Apollo 11 moon landing was real, but the footage was all produced in the MGM studio at Boreham Wood by Stanley Kubrick at the order of Richard Nixon, using the sets and technology from 2001: A Space Odyssey. This has been admitted by Donald Rumsfeld and Henry Kissinger, among other former presedential advisors. Kubrick was torn apart by guilt and in 1980 used his adaptation of The Shining as a means of confession, littering the film with stark references to the Apollo program.

[video]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26EicKfNYPg[/video]
 
I certainly dont believe in conspiracy theories about vaccines, but neither do I 100% trust the medical profession on the subject.

Back in the 80's the vaccine scare wasnt MMR, it was whooping cough. The issue being that in a small number of cases it could cause brain damage. The advice was that if the mother had suffered from epilepsy the child should not have the vaccine. My wife hadnt had epilepsy, but her mother had. So we tried to find out if that meant that our daughter should not be vaccinated. The advice we received from various medics could be summed up as "I dont know but have her vaccinated anyway". There was also an interview with the Chief Medical Officer at the time in which he said "25,000 cases of brain damage is a small price to pay to erradicate to whooping cough". Factually true, but of no re-assurance if your child might be one of the 25,000.

Eventually my wife went to see a female doctor who she knew had a child of the same age and asked her if her son had been vaccinated. She admitted he hadnt, but she was still happily vaccinating everyone else's kids.
 
SkyBlueFlux said:
BlueBearBoots said:
SkyBlueFlux said:
I don't know anything about compensation claims and quite frankly don't really care as they aren't awarded through scientific consensus.

The original study linking autism with the MMR vaccine was an absolute abomination. It was probably one of the most harmful studies anybody in the scientific community has produced when it comes to the real world effect on the public.

It was a study conducted by a man (Andrew Wakefield) who was being financed by legal teams to find a link between the two. He also had patents filed for the single shot alternative version of the vaccine. He recruited his study participants, he conducted unethical and unauthorised tests, his method was poor, his conclusions were fraudulent and as a result he (quite rightfully) was stripped of his medical license. He can no longer practice medicine and he never will again.

Since this ONE fabricated study, there have been hundreds of rigorous in depth studies, designed both to refute the original study by Wakefield and also attempt to find a connection between the MMR vaccine and autism. In total hundreds of studies have analysed data from over 25,782,000 children across multiple countries using a variety of techniques... not one, not a single one of those studies, (I can't describe to you the zeal with which I'm stressing zero here) has found a link between the two. It's taken all that to try and dispell a myth started by one man with a strong financial motive.

As a result of this, cases of measles and whooping cough are escalating to a rate not seen for years. Children are dying.

If people still aren't sure if vaccines cause autism or not then please visit this site for more information:

How Do Vaccines Cause Autism?


SBF that's a great post and articulated exactly what I was thinking. How are you btw?

Thanks BBB, it's a subject I'm quite passionate about as you can probably tell. It would be reasonable to question government funded vaccination schemes, if the arguments had some kind of basis. I've never seen a single cogent argument or proof suggesting that vaccinations do anything other than save lives (8m per year, there or there abouts). All the arguments I see are poorly reasoned, flawed, scare-mongering. The above being a classic example.

"There's mercury in some vaccines"

And? There's chlorine in table salt, there's fluorine in toothpaste, cheese is filled with ammonia! Mercury is in tuna ffs, I've eaten it nearly twice a week for about 20 years. On its own the statement just means nothing. There's no evidence to suggest the mercury (or more accurately thimerosal which is actually a mercury compound) causes any harm whatsoever, and we've been using it and studying it all over the world since the 1930s.

As for me, well I took my doctor's advice, and whilst he won't be right 100% of the time, his team of medical professionals have done an excellent job at getting me back on my feet in no time at all. Medical science, hey? Not so scary after all.

Hope you're well!
Great couple of posts buddy. I was cross when Crouchinho posted but your two posts summed up everything I was thinking but unable to articulate.
 
johnny on the spot said:
The Apollo 11 moon landing was real, but the footage was all produced in the MGM studio at Boreham Wood by Stanley Kubrick at the order of Richard Nixon, using the sets and technology from 2001: A Space Odyssey. This has been admitted by Donald Rumsfeld and Henry Kissinger, among other former presedential advisors. Kubrick was torn apart by guilt and in 1980 used his adaptation of The Shining as a means of confession, littering the film with stark references to the Apollo program.

[video]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26EicKfNYPg[/video]


watched the first minute and a half.

It's already wrong. Kubrick bought 3 50mm F/0.7 lenses directly from Zeiss.
 
nijinsky's fetlocks said:
Loukas said:
BWTAC said:
Playing records in reverse gave hidden meanings. e.g David Souls Silver Lady, when played in reverse, actually tells you to kill black people and support the Ku Klux Klan.


Same with Umbrella - Rhianna.

If you play that backwards, it actually sounds better.

Tuberculosis is transmitted via anal sex with traffic wardens.

Oh shit!
 

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