What has Redknapp started?

[Vienna_70]

I don't give a fook about 'having something to talk about in the pubs'.

VT wouldn't stop that anyway!!

You're right, it would stop very little in that sense. Just look at the Kompany and Balotelli incidents as examples of how opinions can be completely split even after reviewing them on video.

Football is different to rugby, cricket, tennis etc in the way that much of the officiating comes down to 'interpretations' of the law. Technology could (and should) be brought in to rule on the 'black-and-white' areas of the game such as the ball going over the line, but how much use would it be for the rest of the game?

It might prove to be very useful indeed, but it certainly wouldn't stop there being any debate on the decisions made.

As far as I know, technology is only used in both rugby codes to decide if tries are scored legally or not, which as you say, is very 'black-and-white'.

 

[Bigga]

I don't give a fook about 'having something to talk about in the pubs'.

VT wouldn't stop that anyway!!

You're right, it would stop very little in that sense. Just look at the Kompany and Balotelli incidents as examples of how opinions can be completely split even after reviewing them on video.

Football is different to rugby, cricket, tennis etc in the way that much of the officiating comes down to 'interpretations' of the law. Technology could (and should) be brought in to rule on the 'black-and-white' areas of the game such as the ball going over the line, but how much use would it be for the rest of the game?

It might prove to be very useful indeed, but it certainly wouldn't stop there being any debate on the decisions made.

DB, when I first wrote my article 2 years ago, at length on this site, these were the incidents I was referring to EXACTLY!! There was a counter argument by CB(who seems very quiet as he's witnessed chickens come home to roost!) about when VT would be applied and my argument was 'nonsense'!!

VT shuts EVERYBODY up!! Refs are forced to officiate better and more consistently as a result of getting a decision wrong, managers and captains are forced to know when to apply an appeal otherwise the ref takes absolute control and his decision is final with no appeal and best of all, no retrospective action unless a ref makes a recommendation in his after report because of the limit of his reffing powers on the pitch.

The media cannot, then, have anything to influence and we can get on with the game of football that has become modern day.

 

[Dubai Blue]

I don't give a fook about 'having something to talk about in the pubs'.

VT wouldn't stop that anyway!!

You're right, it would stop very little in that sense. Just look at the Kompany and Balotelli incidents as examples of how opinions can be completely split even after reviewing them on video.

Football is different to rugby, cricket, tennis etc in the way that much of the officiating comes down to 'interpretations' of the law. Technology could (and should) be brought in to rule on the 'black-and-white' areas of the game such as the ball going over the line, but how much use would it be for the rest of the game?

It might prove to be very useful indeed, but it certainly wouldn't stop there being any debate on the decisions made.

DB, when I first wrote my article 2 years ago, at length on this site, these were the incidents I was referring to EXACTLY!! There was a counter argument by CB(who seems very quiet as he's witnessed chickens come home to roost!) about when VT would be applied and my argument was 'nonsense'!!

VT shuts EVERYBODY up!! Refs are forced to officiate better and more consistently as a result of getting a decision wrong, managers and captains are forced to know when to apply an appeal otherwise the ref takes absolute control and his decision is final with no appeal and best of all, no retrospective action unless a ref makes a recommendation in his after report because of the limit of his reffing powers on the pitch.

The media cannot, then, have anything to influence and we can get on with the game of football that has become modern day.

Would you allow it for something the referee has ruled on that the captain/manager disagree with or only for things the referee has 'missed'?

The latter would be easy to introduce, but the former would be more difficult as it would involve the referee changing his mind or the 4th official overruling him.

Take the penalty against Micah for example. Ref gives it, we appeal it. I'm convinced that the original decision would be upheld even after the replay. Cue all hell breaking loose!!

 

[mancunial]

If nothing comes of this then there is even more vindication to claim an agenda...

I watched most games this weekend, and with every foul tackle I was thinking what if Kompany or Balotelli had done that. Most City misdemeanors are punished whereas most other teams do far worse and get away with it.

-- Mon Jan 30, 2012 12:03 am --

How will they know who to discipline if managers and the media don't tell them?

Dunno, thy could always watch it :s

Of course they could, but there are incidents at every game which the cameras spot, and the refs miss, but they only act on 1% of these......the ones that Hansen & Lawrensen mention and become national talking points

I'm exactly the same Martin im watching every tackle thinking why the fk hasnt that one been pulled, makes me hate that foy and Rooney, what a pair of twats they are.

 

[Matty]

Van Persie has got away with it, on closer inspection of the replay the FA have announced that they can't be certain whether he hit the Villa player with his elbow or his arse.

 

[Bigga]

You're right, it would stop very little in that sense. Just look at the Kompany and Balotelli incidents as examples of how opinions can be completely split even after reviewing them on video.

Football is different to rugby, cricket, tennis etc in the way that much of the officiating comes down to 'interpretations' of the law. Technology could (and should) be brought in to rule on the 'black-and-white' areas of the game such as the ball going over the line, but how much use would it be for the rest of the game?

It might prove to be very useful indeed, but it certainly wouldn't stop there being any debate on the decisions made.

DB, when I first wrote my article 2 years ago, at length on this site, these were the incidents I was referring to EXACTLY!! There was a counter argument by CB(who seems very quiet as he's witnessed chickens come home to roost!) about when VT would be applied and my argument was 'nonsense'!!

VT shuts EVERYBODY up!! Refs are forced to officiate better and more consistently as a result of getting a decision wrong, managers and captains are forced to know when to apply an appeal otherwise the ref takes absolute control and his decision is final with no appeal and best of all, no retrospective action unless a ref makes a recommendation in his after report because of the limit of his reffing powers on the pitch.

The media cannot, then, have anything to influence and we can get on with the game of football that has become modern day.

Would you allow it for something the referee has ruled on that the captain/manager disagree with or only for things the referee has 'missed'?

The latter would be easy to introduce, but the former would be more difficult as it would involve the referee changing his mind or the 4th official overruling him.

Take the penalty against Micah for example. Ref gives it, we appeal it. I'm convinced that the original decision would be upheld even after the replay. Cue all hell breaking loose!!

To your first questions, I say both!

If the Cap/ manager disagrees with a decision; appeal. If they're wrong, then that's one less appeal from two. You will soon release as Cap and manager, you may have to bite the bullet on some things, cos you may REALLY need the appeal for something serious in the game!

As for the Micah incident, appealing it would have changed the ref's mind, I'm convinced!

Firstly, in the original play, Dowd saw the secondary action that influenced his decision. he had missed the deflected ball as he had to look around a player to judge for the pen. he had only seen Micah 'handball' it from his POV(if you get the chance to look at the clip again, look at his view from behind the goal!).

Secondly, we have to decide whose rule we follow if it got up to VT; the ref's interpretation or the the law which guides towards 'intent', which a deflection surely dictates not!

These are the only problems I forsee.

 

[Mad Eyed Screamer]

Who decides which of the weekend's incidents need looking at?

Usually it's the MOTD pundits, and from there the tabloids kick in on a Monday. I think managers getting involved is new, and the FA are going to have to review their disciplinary process. Was reported this weekend that Brian Marwood had raised a related matter with the referees

Talk Bollocks and 5 Live usually get in there first.....