What has the UK become under the far right influence?

Not to be a member of the far right, but that's not quite the full story. The analysis I think you are referencing ignores the fact that 8% of those convicted had an unknown nationality - i.e., obviously not British but ambiguous/unable to record. Assuming none of those are British, it's actually closer to 25%. When you control for 'sexual assault against female', this jumps to 34%, or if you want to be really charitable and claim that 0% of the 'unknown' perpetrators are British, still jumps to 28%. You've also used a UK-wide baseline stat for population, but the analysis was on England and Wales only where the proportion of foreign nationals is 10.9% - not 16%. So, based on the analysis, it would appear foreign nationals across England and Wales are convicted of sexual crimes at roughly 3x their rate of population.

That said, it's clearly unfair to suggest it is purely an issue with Islam or any specific religion.
I don’t think that’s necessarily true. For example, there are presumably plenty of crimes carried out by homeless people, who might not have any ID and whose nationality can’t therefore officially be recorded. I don’t really know how the police go about recording nationality, but I assume they’re not allowed to just guess based on the accent.
 
The right of this forum are fucking deranged misanthropes. As is the right in general in many cases to be fair.

You'll learn...
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...as you get older kiddy wink!

That quote is incorrect.

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Imagining I'm a kiddywink doesn't make it so, rightoid cretin.
 
What a shit way to feel.
The tension on the streets I walk is palpable. I offer a smile or friendly nod to people these wankers would target.
Good on you.

Unfortunately that is how I feel. I'm sixty and am contemplating where to live especially if Farage's mob get into Downing Street.

Where we live nowadays isn't as enlightened as it should be. I don't want to end up as another Bhim Kohli (rest in peace).

We've already seen how emboldened racists are and how lies are told about us by malign influencers.

We already have Reform in charge of Derbyshire County Council. It's very sad really. To think the county once had the late great David Bookbinder in charge who brought great public services and employment into the area especially Toyota amongst other things.

Here's to better days for the future. The Green shoots are there literally if Zack Polanski and co's message continues to cut through but it is probably going to get much worse before it gets better.
 
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Good on you.

Unfortunately that is how I feel. I'm sixty and am contemplating where to live especially if Farage's mob get into Downing Street.

Where we live nowadays isn't as enlightened as it should be. I don't want to end up as another Bhim Kohli (rest in peace).

We've already seen how emboldened racists are and how lies are told about us by malign influencers.

We already have Reform in charge of Derbyshire County Council. It's very sad really. To think the county once had the late great David Bookbinder in charge who brought great public services and employment into the area especially Toyota amongst other things.

Here's to better days for the future. The Green shoots are there literally if Zack Polanski and co's message continues to cut through but it is probably going to get much worse before it gets better.

It's depressing to hear that you feel this way, mate. - That you're contemplating leaving your home cause of some fascist windbags really breaks my heart.

I'd like to think the glut of Reform fuck ups in the lead up to the general election might give some people a glimpse into their incompentence, but I think a lot of people don't care, they just want whoever hurts non-whites the most, to the point Labour and the Tories are squabbling over who can be more horrific to refugees.

All the best though, pal.
 
What a desperately sad way to be and to feel, that others with nothing are responsible for the way society is. This is what happens when divisive voices are not challenged on their false narratives and fictitious stats. Unfortunately, a media owned by non-doms through complex trust arrangements has no desire to tell the truth about the average tax rate of billionaires, and a TV news channel owned by a Dubai-based investment group will not be telling you about Nigel Farage's funding arrangements with Lord Bamford, who owes HMRC £500m, nor will they be informing you of the failure of Brexit, and the collapse of the promises made by Farage.

When the narrative is set that 'the others' are to blame, people who have struggled with the economic impact of Brexit and austerity, of the failure to build social housing, or build industries in the former textile, mining, steel, and engineering towns, will look for someone to believe in. When I worked in Burnley, one of the most deprived towns in the North of England, it was no surprise when the BNP made its head office there, against a backdrop of unemployment, poor housing stock, substance abuse, poverty, and racial divide.

Our national broadcaster has continually platformed Reform but failed to challenge their narrative, and we are a nation divided. The Israel/Palestine issue is often misreported, with the Palestinian death toll largely ignored, and October 7th 2023 continually paraded as a commencement of hostilities in a near 80-year 'conflict'. Young people who seek out different media sources are now constantly questioning the 'truths' of the past, of Churchill as an all-conquering-hero, or learning that great centres of learning were founded and funded by plantation owners with their free, imprisoned labour force, and the right fight against it, parading dissenting voices as England-hating, unpatriotic antisemites, or the great unwashed. We are, undoubtedly, at a tipping-point, but I have faith that things will get better because the truth cannot hide forever.

I am blessed to live in the multi-cultural thriving heart of my city, surrounded by all faiths, colours, and creeds, and I welcome the opportunity to immerse myself in humanity. I feel enriched by it. I hope that over the next four years more and more progressive voices are heard and politicians and media organisations begin to forensically challenge the narrative. I have seen one interview with Donald Trump, another hateful, divisive stain on society, where he was properly challenged and utterly fell apart, looking like a junior school debater confronted by Christopher Hitchens. I hope that the Epstein files crash his world and cause global tremors through which a rejection of his politics becomes the new fruit on the olive branch of humanity.

In the meantime, we must address societal inequality for it is the foundation that hate is built upon. We must find ways to grow the economy, to invest in housing and services, and to provide hope as an antidote to hate. We have a problem because we are living much longer, we are reproducing fewer, and we are working less. There is no way to hide from the fact that, for society, that is damaging...very...and immigration is an absolutely essential tool to help navigate the shortfall, assuming AI hasn't taken human-beings from the 'needed box' by then.
 
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It's depressing to hear that you feel this way, mate. - That you're contemplating leaving your home cause of some fascist windbags really breaks my heart.

I'd like to think the glut of Reform fuck ups in the lead up to the general election might give some people a glimpse into their incompentence, but I think a lot of people don't care, they just want whoever hurts non-whites the most, to the point Labour and the Tories are squabbling over who can be more horrific to refugees.

All the best though, pal.

Thanks mate. It's not just what they say. It's what they could actually do. We have already experienced it. It can literally make your life hell.

Like you im hoping their incompetence and ill discipline gets through but you sum it up perfectly about their racist nastiness.

All the best to you too.
 
Thanks mate. It's not just what they say. It's what they could actually do. We have already experienced it. It can literally make your life hell.

Like you im hoping their incompetence and ill discipline gets through but you sum it up perfectly about their racist nastiness.

All the best to you too.

Three of my siblings are mixed race, they've had gobshites on the bus tell them to fuck off back to their own country, despite them all having the thickest Salfordian accents you can imagine.

I can never experience racism like that, but I hate that my brother and sisters and fellow blues like you could experience such hatred just for existing. It's disgusting.
 
Social media amplifies extremes. That's not my main concern.

I'm talking about walking down the street and not knowing what might happen next from people of that mindset. Having previously had a racist neighbour who tried with his mate to intimidate our family before he scuttled off and a street full of people doing nowt about it, or even joining in on social media and worse, I very much doubt how many people practically are on our side, so to speak.

I'm sorry that it's come to this for you. The majority of people in this country aren't racist but that means absolutely nothing if we don't stand up to those who are.

Especially now where many of the aporox 20% of people in this country who do hold fully racist views have been emboldened to start behaving like bullies.

At this point in time if the rest of us are simply a silent majority turning a blind eye then we're actually part of the problem. History tells us clearly what happens when the majority acquiesce to a radicalised minority.
 


City fans assaulting Sudan protestors

This video does not show that. What you’ve said is incorrect. There were two separate unrelated protests taking place.

The start of the video shows the Sudan protestors who were on the South side of Ashton New Road, a bit further down near the bus stops.

The latter part of the video showing City fans kicking people and being arrested was where the ‘Get Israel Out Of FIFA’ protestors were outside the South Stand opposite the chippy on the North side of Ashton New Road. They were ones who disrupted The Last Post by playing their drums and chanting their ‘Get Israel Out Of FIFA’ chant while the bugler was playing.

Not that we want to see City fans kicking people and being arrested. But the truth/accuracy should be reported and posted.
 
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This video does not show that. It’s wrong. There were two separate protest taking place.

The start of the video shows the Sudan protestors who were on the South side of Ashton New Road, a bit further down near the bus stops.

The latter part of the video showing City fans kicking people and being arrested was where the ‘Get Israel Out Of FIFA’ protestors were outside the South Stand opposite the chippy on the North side of Ashton New Road. They were ones who disrupted The Last Post by playing their drums and chanting their ‘Get Israel Out Of FIFA’ chant while the bugler was playing.

Not that we want to see City fans kicking people and being arrested. But we should the truth should be reported and posted.
I'm not saying that didn't happen but have you got any evidence of this? I didn't hear anything from inside the stadium while the Last Post was being played. Also, the City fan kicking the protestor was pre-match which would've been before the bugler played as that was immediately prior to kick-off, so his actions in kicking the protestor wouldn't have been in response to this alleged incident where they were chanting over the bugler.
 
I'm not saying that didn't happen but have you got any evidence of this? I didn't hear anything from inside the stadium while the Last Post was being played. Also, the City fan kicking the protestor was pre-match which would've been before the bugler played as that was immediately prior to kick-off, so his actions in kicking the protestor wouldn't have been in response to this alleged incident where they were chanting over the bugler.
Quite a few people heard it, it was mentioned in the Remembrance thread in Off Topic. You could hear the same samba style drum beat they’d been playing on the street earlier when I walked past them outside the stadium, during the quiet inside the stadium.

I didn’t say the fan kicking them happened during The Last Post being played nor because they played during The Last Post.

My post was to highlight the difference in the two distinct protests and which ones the City fan assaulted. City fans did not assault the Sudan protestors.
 
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Quite a few people heard it, it was mentioned in the Remembrance thread in Off Topic. You could hear the same samba style drum beat they’d been playing on the street earlier when I walked past them outside the stadium, during the quiet inside the stadium.

I didn’t say the fan kicking them happened during The Last Post being played nor because they played during The Last Post.

My post was to highlight the difference in the two distinct protests and which ones the City fan assaulted. City fans did not assault the Sudan protestors.
Ok, thanks. I didn't hear anything myself but they're out of order doing that during the Last Post. They were peaceful enough when I passed them earlier on about half an hour before kick-off and have been on the other occasions I've seen them outside the ground
 

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