What has to happen for us to be awarded a penalty?

[SkyBlueTX]

I think more vision testing is needed. Half these refs couldn't find the "E".

 

[Innsbruckblue]

It will only change once we start playing in red

 

[xenon_]

Money, power and influence has a way to getting what it wants. They key thing to understand is that when large piles of money are to be made sharks are going to stirr, but even more importantly that Manchester city's owners benifit few in England. A lot of money goes trough City and away from England, rather than it would make the rich and powerfull in England even more rich and powerfull. That makes it easy to generate dislike for City among the English football elite, for they are not into much of a piece of this pie. Sports federations are ever so often corrupt when there is lots of money involved and hardly any transparency or accountabillety, and the media in England is pretty much tied to various interrests and agenda's too. And as long as the English football fans are willing to fork out ever more hefty prices for tickets and whatnot and read into the media then various backhand tricks will still be able to yield millions.

I work in IT and have lost most naivity seeing just how much corperate espionage is going around. Having years of experience on the stock markets ive pretty much seen all sorts of strategic moves trough backhand mechanics and media moves to leverage prices. To think that bussiness by nature wants to work by fair rules is truly naive, indeed it's always in the interrest of private bussiness to maximize gain regardless of how it might affect others providing they can get away with it.

Afaik when Sheik Mansour bought this club he bought it for a 100 to 200 million and then he dropped in about the same amount to make it a better team. Nowadays the club is worth over a billion. Foreign investers around the world could get the idea that investing in English top footbal clubs can be highly lucrative yet there will be only so much or few even willing to sell especially if it's not at the "right price". Value can be brought down though, football clubs are not so sensitive to this as stocks but a string of poor performance's sure can mean quite a bit in monetary terms.

Intristicly i cannot fanthom that the price of buying up a ref would be so high in comparison to the huge sums that float around this league. The only thing that is of consideration then is what can be gotten away with, or, when shit hits the fan wether they can make a unimportant fish fry for it. The key then is the power structure of a likely easily corruptable football association, ref decissions along this nature can always be questionable but if you can get The Fa on youre side then there not much difficulty to foul play along this nature. Add in sports betting interrests that have grown a lot too and you can make some easy corruption pay up bigtime. Am i'm saying that this is 100% sure the case, perhaps not, but i wouldn't be surprized at all.

What are doing!?

Don't mix up the casual gangster nature of global business with the whiter-than-white world of football!

Stop being logical. You're fucking with my religion here mate. Not a good idea ;)

 

[FlemishDuck]

What are doing!?

Currently watching the blood on the stock markets after youre predictable lets all just take our profit in Januari BS. Luckily seen it comming soon enough. This economics system .... !!

Anyway i checked the stats for Penalty's given this year and we don't look as so much an exception in the stats. With 3 penalty's given were somewhere in the middle, most teams got 2,3 or 4 pens so far this year. We do look somewhat exceptional in what we do with our pens, were the only ones who missed 2 pens of 3 given.

The real exception in pens this year is Leicester City. 8 pens so far. Well whoever has money in Leicester is going to have a good year, some Thai dude who owns a lot of duty free shops and a polo club in England, taking a quick look his bussinesses have come under scrutiny for corruption in Thailand before on a few occasions.

Personally i think we should have had more pens, like around 6 or so. Would have probably put us above Leicester too.

 

[TheThirdDeano]

What are our possession on opponents area like compared to others? I'd be interested to see when we've had so few penalties

 

[dronefromsector7G]

What are our possession on opponents area like compared to others? I'd be interested to see when we've had so few penalties

I would be surprised if we didn't top the list for possession in and around the penalty area. Most PL games are end to end/midfield battles. A lot of ours are attack v defence.

 

[TheThirdDeano]

I would be surprised if we didn't top the list for possession in and around the penalty area. Most PL games are end to end/midfield battles. A lot of ours are attack v defence.

That's why I'm interested to know, because the amount of time we spend dicking around their box surely would lead to more than 3? I can think of at least another 2 occasions in the past 2 weeks!

 

[Dave Ewing's Back 'eader]

I call it 'political' refereeing. Take the line that produces the least 'fallout'! There is less shite by not giving a penalty when it was, than in giving one when it wasn't - unless it's down at The Swamp where they used to have one within the first quarter and accompanying red card, or just before HT if they were struggling! This brings forth the misguided notion that refs are meant to be 100% sure before they point to the spot. I have seen so much football, so many referees that there isn't any pattern of consistency over a season. And to tolerate any longer the Martinezesque notion of maintaining the 'human error' element of refereeing is just ridiculous - it benefits no one, bar the Rags!!

 

[City_Sean]

Sterling gets the shit kicked out of him, yet I can't remember a single decision in his favour. He was booked for diving v Sunderland when he was clattered into.

 

[Dave Ewing's Back 'eader]

Here's how Fernando feels about it...

http://www.manchestereveningnews.co...nchester-city-suffer-another-penalty-10732351

I cannot understand how anyone would want to retain the 'human error' element. Fans making their way back to the carpark happy as Larry that the ref has made a mistake and they are out of a cup or their title challenge has been dented! Not a chance. I want a game to finish according to what happened during the ninety minutes and not what got regurgitated inside a ref's head. Remember FatPhil seeing Micah handle the ball when it hit his leg? Or that lino seeing the ball hit the Villa player's arm as it scooted twelve inches past? Or FatScouseGIt in the ref's ear to get VK sent off? Video tech as it is used in rugby would stop the lot. And I wouldn't be bothered on jot that we didn't get a pen we weren't entitled to. I just want the genuine ones. The one on Navas and the one on Sterling. Perhaps we could start the second leg with two pens to get us up and running.