What is your Political Compass!!!

jerseyblue said:
nijinsky's fetlocks said:
jerseyblue said:
Rather significantly further to the left.


Based on what,exactly?

I'm going to do my best not to get in an argument here, but based on several things. For starters my position on this board compared to him, as I know for a fact I fall to right of him. Secondly, as a highly engaged American citizen I can inform you that our President is of the school of the European social welfare state, which alone should put him somewhere to the left of center. His stances on centralized bureaucratic government, his wonderfully inept healthcare bill, to forcing green energy down the throats of americans. I'd go on further, but I'm supposed to be working...

Don't take this as a dig at you, but as something I've generally come to understand from reading these boards... I think there is a generally wide misunderstanding of American politics. I would not pretend to know the first thing about anything that happens in England, although I was taught about. I would equally not expect for everyone on here to know about what happens in the USA, but there are far too many people who either pretend to know, or are just wildly misinformed.


I won't take it as a dig,although I certainly find your 'you don't understand because you don't live here' attitude more than slightly patronising.
However,if you seriously think that Oreobama is 'of the European school of the social welfare state' then you clearly have little grasp of just how our social welfare system works,because it is so far removed from yours as to be a different species entirely.
As to his 'inept' welfare bill,well that was watered down to an unrecogniseable version of the original in order to get it passed.
'Forcing green energy down the throats of Americans'?
Did you read that in one of Sarah Palins pamphlets?
Your nation pumps out carbon emissions on an epic scale,so it's about time you had a long overdue reality check.
What happened to closing down Guantanamo?
Human rights?
Extraordinary rendition?
Investing in poorer inner city communities?
From where I stand,Oreobama is in exactly the right spot on the diagram.
 
nijinsky's fetlocks said:
jerseyblue said:
nijinsky's fetlocks said:
Based on what,exactly?

I'm going to do my best not to get in an argument here, but based on several things. For starters my position on this board compared to him, as I know for a fact I fall to right of him. Secondly, as a highly engaged American citizen I can inform you that our President is of the school of the European social welfare state, which alone should put him somewhere to the left of center. His stances on centralized bureaucratic government, his wonderfully inept healthcare bill, to forcing green energy down the throats of americans. I'd go on further, but I'm supposed to be working...

Don't take this as a dig at you, but as something I've generally come to understand from reading these boards... I think there is a generally wide misunderstanding of American politics. I would not pretend to know the first thing about anything that happens in England, although I was taught about. I would equally not expect for everyone on here to know about what happens in the USA, but there are far too many people who either pretend to know, or are just wildly misinformed.


I won't take it as a dig,although I certainly find your 'you don't understand because you don't live here' attitude more than slightly patronising.
However,if you seriously think that Oreobama is 'of the European school of the social welfare state' then you clearly have little grasp of just how our social welfare system works,because it is so far removed from yours as to be a different species entirely.
As to his 'inept' welfare bill,well that was watered down to an unrecogniseable version of the original in order to get it passed.
'Forcing green energy down the throats of Americans'?
Did you read that in one of Sarah Palins pamphlets?
Your nation pumps out carbon emissions on an epic scale,so it's about time you had a long overdue reality check.
What happened to closing down Guantanamo?
Human rights?
Extraordinary rendition?
Investing in poorer inner city communities?
From where I stand,Oreobama is in exactly the right spot on the diagram.


I'm well aware the european social welfare model is waayyyy different from what we have, but it is Obama's goal to model it after Europe...that's all I was trying to say.

With regards to the green energy thing...Until oil has been replaced with a viable green option, it is going to be the predominant source of energy on the planet, no matter how you slice it. I wish we could switch everything to solar tomorrow, unfortunately its not efficient enough to compete against other sources of energy. I'm sorry if the you're not from here so you don't understand part came off as patronizing. I was speaking in generalities about the nature of this board...there are plenty of people here who know full well what goes on in World politics let alone in the US.

As for the list of other things, to each his own...who knows what Obama thinks there, but I'm telling you he is ideologically far left of where that chart claims he is.
 
jerseyblue said:
nijinsky's fetlocks said:
jerseyblue said:
Rather significantly further to the left.


Based on what,exactly?

I'm going to do my best not to get in an argument here, but based on several things. For starters my position on this board compared to him, as I know for a fact I fall to right of him. Secondly, as a highly engaged American citizen I can inform you that our President is of the school of the European social welfare state, which alone should put him somewhere to the left of center. His stances on centralized bureaucratic government, his wonderfully inept healthcare bill, to forcing green energy down the throats of americans. I'd go on further, but I'm supposed to be working...
I think you're confusing left/right with up/down. All those statist attributes of Obama's are authoritarian, which is why he is way north of your stance.

It is no surprise that those in government are in the top right quadrant - it goes with the job. Europeans are, probably, more left than Americans (green quadrant vs purple quadrant, tending toward the middle when averaged over a large sample - this is what I got from another compass, the moral compass, which is more involved and the results more complex).
 
Economic Left/Right: -6.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.38

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The questions were rather loaded imo, and certainly assumed alot of things.
 
Johnsonontheleft said:
Would those who call themselves socialists fall to the left or right of centre of this diagram?
Do you have a note in front of you reminding you to breathe?
 
SWP's back said:
Johnsonontheleft said:
Would those who call themselves socialists fall to the left or right of centre of this diagram?
Do you have a note in front of you reminding you to breathe?

It was a serious question. For once, instead of an insult could you please answer the question?
 

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