Wheelsy
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Can we make a decision either way, so Alex McLeish can shut the fuck up about it?
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What to do with Joe....?
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OrigamiNinja
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Wheelsy said:Can we make a decision either way, so Alex McLeish can shut the fuck up about it?
Exactly!
McLeish should be told now that no matter what Hart will not be at Brum next season. He should show a little more respect to City on the basis that we have loaned him a top class keeper for a season who has played a major part in making sure that Brum will be in the Prem next season. Instead of saying thanks and respecting that at this moment in time City have not yet made a decision on next season he cant help but stick his nose in and moan to the media about it! Therefore City may well loan out Hart next season but McLeish should be told that it wont be to Brum due to his attitude.
Personally I would get Joe back. We could well be playing 50-60 games next season and theres plenty of games there to split between 2 keepers!
BlueRockape
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We need 2 players fighting for each place why should G.k be any different
squirtyflower
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i'd bring him back for next season
if we get into europe there'll be a lot of games to be played
joe can play in all the cup competitions and shay in the league
plus if shay were to get injured it could wreck the season if the back up is not of high quality
if we get into europe there'll be a lot of games to be played
joe can play in all the cup competitions and shay in the league
plus if shay were to get injured it could wreck the season if the back up is not of high quality
It's daft to compare Joe to Shay.
A young guy with one good Prem season and a solitary cap for his country versus a seasoned Premiership player (ten or twelve seasons?) in his prime, over a hundred caps for his country, including champion's league and world cup experience.
Come on lads, take off those (English) rose tinted glasses. If you were the manager in the morning and your job depended on the call, which guy would you put your faith in?
Joe's the future, Shay is now.
I've had it up to my eyeballs with idiots spouting nonsense on this forum about Shay Given's supposed shortcomings. (He doesn't command his area? It's not a problem when he plays for Ireland - but then, he knows who his centre-halves are there. At City, they're rarely the same people for four or five games in a row).
Shay Given is the best keeper in the Premiership - bar none. And please don't embarass yourself and come back with Reina (Ask yourself, how many times have you seen the word 'hapless' in the same sentence as, 'Reina'?) - world class? A player who can't get a game with his own country? Cech was a great keeper but he's gone and bottled everything crucial since that incident with Hunt. Gomez is okay (never thought I'd be saying that, a year ago) -and only okay and Green's reliable too (certainly the best English keeper). I'd take either of those two - along with Van der Saar - before I'd even think about replacing Shay Given with Joe Hart.
That said, there's no way we should loosen our grip on Joe Hart. Give it a year more, maybe two, and we may have a lovely problem on our hands.
A young guy with one good Prem season and a solitary cap for his country versus a seasoned Premiership player (ten or twelve seasons?) in his prime, over a hundred caps for his country, including champion's league and world cup experience.
Come on lads, take off those (English) rose tinted glasses. If you were the manager in the morning and your job depended on the call, which guy would you put your faith in?
Joe's the future, Shay is now.
I've had it up to my eyeballs with idiots spouting nonsense on this forum about Shay Given's supposed shortcomings. (He doesn't command his area? It's not a problem when he plays for Ireland - but then, he knows who his centre-halves are there. At City, they're rarely the same people for four or five games in a row).
Shay Given is the best keeper in the Premiership - bar none. And please don't embarass yourself and come back with Reina (Ask yourself, how many times have you seen the word 'hapless' in the same sentence as, 'Reina'?) - world class? A player who can't get a game with his own country? Cech was a great keeper but he's gone and bottled everything crucial since that incident with Hunt. Gomez is okay (never thought I'd be saying that, a year ago) -and only okay and Green's reliable too (certainly the best English keeper). I'd take either of those two - along with Van der Saar - before I'd even think about replacing Shay Given with Joe Hart.
That said, there's no way we should loosen our grip on Joe Hart. Give it a year more, maybe two, and we may have a lovely problem on our hands.
moses the blue
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Not boasting but I actually know Joe, so a couple of points to make:
1-Nobody from City has contacted him ever since he joined Brum on loan, not Hughes and defo not Mancini (some would say "why should he?", well I would if I was a new manager and had players out on loan, even a 5 minute phonecall)
2-He doesnt want to come back and sit on the bench but..
3-He does want to be a City player and would prefer to be loaned out again next season if he isnt going to be considered as number one choice
This isnt a demand, it is his choice, he is very near to being Englands number 1 choice goalkeeper so doesnt want to waste that by being on the bench
4-He is very happy and settled in the North West
Hope that clears up a few things
1-Nobody from City has contacted him ever since he joined Brum on loan, not Hughes and defo not Mancini (some would say "why should he?", well I would if I was a new manager and had players out on loan, even a 5 minute phonecall)
2-He doesnt want to come back and sit on the bench but..
3-He does want to be a City player and would prefer to be loaned out again next season if he isnt going to be considered as number one choice
This isnt a demand, it is his choice, he is very near to being Englands number 1 choice goalkeeper so doesnt want to waste that by being on the bench
4-He is very happy and settled in the North West
Hope that clears up a few things
Loan him out again. Birmingham have a bit of money to spend (apparently), they shouldn't struggle too much next season, so he'll be at a safe enough club to get more experience and keep progressing without having his confidence ruined by being relegated.
I'd keep Stu Taylor as 3rd choice, bring in an old experienced guy for a year(there must be plenty floating around Europe willing to come for a slightly inflated last paycheck) to sit on the bench, then have a recall option in Joe's loan contract to cover for the worst crisis.
I'd keep Stu Taylor as 3rd choice, bring in an old experienced guy for a year(there must be plenty floating around Europe willing to come for a slightly inflated last paycheck) to sit on the bench, then have a recall option in Joe's loan contract to cover for the worst crisis.
What ever happens inthe last 6 games were going to need two quality keepers next season,id expect city to play around 50+ games next season,give Joe guarentee`s that he will play 30% of the games over a season,he`s not let anyone down this season so i can see him playing home games against bottom ten teams plus carling cup games.Given is going to need back up next season with expectations rising all the time.Im convinced he should return next season.