What will be the last fake news name given to the Green house effect

[mancity1]

Two separate arguments really. Unfortunately too many people with too much power influence the corporate side of not taking care of what we have.
Also in any nation but I suspect rather more so in developing nations there is an imperative to move forward and it is all too easy to take the polluting route.
Different cultures ascribe different values to things, see whaling.
Individuals litter the planet on an industrial scale. You only have to take a look at your local recycling centre if the bottle banks have not been emptied. Rather than take their bottles home they stack them up, as soon as you drive off it becomes someone elses problem. Ditto furniture left out on the street and mattresses in country lanes.
Far too many selfish people in the world I'm afraid. Not enough take care to think of another. What is the fix? I wish I knew but it gladdens my heart when I see things like kids on litter patrols and beach clean ups. This generation smokes less (I think) which I attribute to anti moking campaigns back in the day, drink driving is not as prevalent, again peer pressure.
Over fishing? (I know I'm almost done), if we don't fish the heck out of the oceans, someone else will. Difficult to get everyone to sing from the same hymn sheet and collectively look after stuff.
Slightly off topic and a touch (?) rambly but I feel better. Off to the shed.

Well summarised and IMO has a lot of relevance to the green house global warming debate which I still think can be debated albeit both ends of the spectrum have come to a conclusion it seems with little room in the middle and that is where I sit I suppose.

Selfishness is a real drag on our humanity , reflecting inwards and I believe it shuts down meaningful dialogue and while we seem to rely on governments often to lead the way some issues are beyond them and quite likely global warming is one of them.

In the end either as an individual or a community I think most want what is best for the planet but we often don't know how to go about it constructively , efficiently and stepping on the order of things as you describe in your first sentence.

Little things matter because from little things bigger things grow so if kids are enthused to do their bit that is a good thing and big kids can learn from little ones , dogs and wine as they say if they are intelligent enough.

 

[KS55]

It’s been beaming sunshine in North Yorkshire on the coast since it came up, healthy double figures since 8am.

Just got back from Upper Wharfedale. Glorious sunshine but a cold wind. Tis now going dark thanks to all those ppl using solar panels and stealing the sunlight.

 

[FogBlueInSanFran]

Just got back from Upper Wharfedale. Glorious sunshine but a cold wind. Tis now going dark thanks to all those ppl using solar panels and stealing the sunlight.

I was there too and agree, but unfortunately someone took a photo of me and now I have no soul.

 

[mancity1]

Michael Shellenberger and a growing number of climate scientists puts the renewable agenda into perspective.

More costly intermittent electricity that in the end is worse for the planet than most forms of traditional electricity generation and threatens the extinction of wild life that has been omnipresent and sky rockets the cost of electricity generation which in the end the consumer pays for.

Its more a question as to whether renewable energy will accelerate the destruction of the planet with little evidence to support the introduction or wind farms and solar energy farms do anything for reducing air temperature which if you think abut it makes sense.

Whatever the fate of the planet renewable energy is not what it is cracked up to be and certainly won't help save its fate.

its encouraging to note that an ever increasing number of individuals particularly those that have suffered both financially and environmentally as a result of the introduction of wind and solar energy into their lives have changed their views on renewable energy sources least of all what they do for the natural habitat.

 

[Machiavelli]

if SWP has those lovely graphs form the lefties in UNI's to show us we must take note and listen , unfortunately for the thousands that died prematurely throughout the world this year because they froze to death because they couldn't afford to heat their bedrooms in winter its cold comfort.

@SWP's back is definitely not a “leftie” lol.