What would you do to help the pub industry?

halfmist said:
That is me exactly. We have no kids and I used to drag her down to the pub 6 nights a week when we were younger.
Now it’s once a week to go to a random pub with no affinity to and a load of kids running around which has definitely increased since the smoking ban and we then invariably pick up a rubbish takeaway.
It tends to be midweek and no change out of about £60 for what usually is a very average night.
I have also weaned myself off real ale to the chemical waste stuff that is called Lager, where there is very little difference between tinned and draft. .
Kronenberg at 80p a can poured by my good self , a lovely garden with no kids running about and a nice tea in the oven whilst we have a chat over how the day has gone…. and no nominated driver required, a bit of a no brainer as to which is the best night.
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Finally someone mentions the smoking ban. Now I’ve never smoked a cig in my life (spliffs apart) and very happy to go home from a pub without stinking like a 5 day old ashtray.
Yet when I was in Florida, the busiest local bars were the ones you can still smoke in. They can’t serve food, but my local got round that by having a trailer outside with a different name (owned by the same bloke who owned the pub) serving food that if you want to, you can eat inside the pub.
 
Mad Eyed Screamer said:
Finally someone mentions the smoking ban. Now I’ve never smoked a cig in my life (spliffs apart) and very happy to go home from a pub without stinking like a 5 day old ashtray.
Yet when I was in Florida, the busiest local bars were the ones you can still smoke in. They can’t serve food, but my local got round that by having a trailer outside with a different name (owned by the same bloke who owned the pub) serving food that if you want to, you can eat inside the pub.
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I’m amazed how little the smoking ban has been mentioned.
I distinctly remember how all and sundry stated the ban would revolutionise Pubs. It did the exact opposite.
The rise and rise of supermarkets has impacted as has the lifestyle of younger people I.e. gaming and social media.
The rise of multi media Sky,Amazon,Netflix etc.
Oh and keg beer is shite.
 
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dickie davies said:
I'm of an age and financial security that I should be saying to the Mrs, "let's go out for an early doors beer"
But I'm very fucking reluctant to pay £14 for two drinks
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This. Don't mind if I'm out for a session with my mates but when I end up paying £28 for a couple of rounds for me and the missus it pains me. Could get a couple of 4 packs plus a couple of bottles of wine for that (and still have change).
 
I'm With Stupid said:
In percentage terms, yes. Not in absolute terms though. When I was pricing things for a restaurant, the lowest profit margin in percentage terms was champagne and the highest was Coke. But in absolute terms, the champagne obviously brought more profit.
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Can definitelysee that there, but Swings and roundabouts mate.

My mate owns a big Marstons pub in Sunderland.

Totally different clientel as it caters a lot for families with kids.

He said the soft drinks mark up is lot larger than the pint of beer is. If he banned kids (hypothetically) the pub would struggle.
 
BlueMonkey79 said:
Can definitelysee that there, but Swings and roundabouts mate.

My mate owns a big Marstons pub in Sunderland.

Totally different clientel as it caters a lot for families with kids.

He said the soft drinks mark up is lot larger than the pint of beer is. If he banned kids (hypothetically) the pub would struggle.
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Yeah. Someone in the industry told me the only decent profits in the pub sector are the big pubs selling microwave meals cheap with expensive drinks to go with it. Food just about coversnits costs but the drinks that go with it are all high profit margin. And doing food means it's busy and you can do a high turnover. Old man pubs just don't do the volume and young people don't drink anymore.
 
The decline of amateur football and indoor leagues like pool and darts hasnt helped. Years ago most pubs had a resident football team in a local league which is hard to find now.
Cost of drinks doesnt help. If you have a firestick you can watch matches at home with a few cans for the price of one pint in some pubs.
Covid probably didnt help, some never got back into the habit of visiting the pub after lockdown.
Local pub culture has changed, you dont often see groups of 18-20 year olds at the start of their drinking career using suburban pubs any more.
 
So many pubs have been redesigned in a way that makes it difficult to sit down, get a round going and have a chat and a laugh. They are like the set up in fast food places in airports. High tables, bench seating, that kind of thing. They want you in, eat a shite meal and have a quick drink, and to fuck off so the next people can come in. They are almost 'on the piss' proof
 
GOULDYBOBS said:
Dogs need banning. I was in a wine bar in Uton. Knob heads sat there watching their beloved spaniel sit on the table licking it's arse. They finish their drinks and leave.
Young couple come in and order a massive charcuterie board and a bottle of wine. Waiter comes out and puts the food down on the shitty arse spaniel table and they tucked in.
I left
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Was it the landlords' dog?
 
Grassland Blue said:
My plan would be to tax the beer which is sold in supermarkets more highly than that sold in pubs. I would hope that that such a measure would discourage the drink at home brigade in favour of those going out for a pint or three.
Thoughts?
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Let us not have short memories. The original "reasoning" for the huge tax hikes on alcohol were because the culture was too much of a strain on the NHS. I am guessing that is still the case otherwise the taxation would have relented :P

Alcohol is becoming expensive enough drinking from home now but it is still miles off pub prices at £6+ for a decent pint.
 
Mad Eyed Screamer said:
Finally someone mentions the smoking ban. Now I’ve never smoked a cig in my life (spliffs apart) and very happy to go home from a pub without stinking like a 5 day old ashtray.
Yet when I was in Florida, the busiest local bars were the ones you can still smoke in. They can’t serve food, but my local got round that by having a trailer outside with a different name (owned by the same bloke who owned the pub) serving food that if you want to, you can eat inside the pub.
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When the smoking ban came in, every place introduced massive outdoor sheltered areas which were fully heated. I still have a smoke when I have had a few drinks but I am not sure whether it has dynamically changed it that much. I believe it was a very good change in food places. Although I still have horror flashbacks of what it was like smelling the odour of piss, shit and puke everywhere for the first time when the smoking ban came in :D
 
SamTheGuru said:
Let us not have short memories. The original "reasoning" for the huge tax hikes on alcohol were because the culture was too much of a strain on the NHS. I am guessing that is still the case otherwise the taxation would have relented :P

Alcohol is becoming expensive enough drinking from home now but it is still miles off pub prices at £6+ for a decent pint.
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It used to be said that you could tell a good pub by how busy its' tap room was.
So many pubs have lost that general conviviality and are dying.
Events like 'dry January' and 'Stoptober' along with the loss of smoke rooms are more nails in their coffin sadly.
 
Worsleyweb said:
Young people really are getting more health conscious the world is changing, more pubs and bars will continue to go sadly.
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Have you seen the fast food and processed shite they stuff their faces with? Not to mention the class A's.
Then sit around their house/flat all day eyes locked onto their phones or tablets, getting off their arses only to go to the loo. Yeah, they are health conscious ;-)
 
£20 for 10 pints of original strength Strongbow, 10 pack of straights and a cigar. Happy days.
 
MCFCTrick said:
Have you seen the fast food and processed shite they stuff their faces with? Not to mention the class A's.
Then sit around their house/flat all day eyes locked onto their phones or tablets, getting off their arses only to go to the loo. Yeah, they are health conscious ;-)
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Yes they really are
 
Open up more pubs near the ground. Most of east Manchester is shite for pubs, bars or restaurants.

Plenty of city fans happy to help buying pints
 
Once a week for the pub quiz just to get out I’m currently on Guinness zero and it’s £4.50 a can! Cheaper alcoholic stout available but it’s the price to pay for non alcoholic these days, we do a family meal maybe twice a month costing about £60 at our local which is really good, would I go more ye but I can’t justify the costs anymore, thank god it didn’t cost this much when I was younger, no wonder they all take marching powder at a cheaper cost or so I’m told.
 
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