When did English football clubs stop playing dinosaur football?

[SambaStyle]

HOOF. regain possession...HOOF!

Used to be the same pattern every game. Now you can watch Burnley vs Swansea in the Championship and see way more movement and positional play than you saw between Man United vs Chelsea in 2009.

In Europe, English teams got dominated in possession figures by Spaniards and practically everyone else, now it's reversed. I'm convinced those old Man United teams would get destroyed by several teams in todays era, they literally had 0 tactics other than hoofing it.

I'd say it was maybe 2011, 2012? Swansea and Brendan Rodgers entered the league playing nice football, City under Mancini started playing some nice football too. Then Poch came, Klopp.. and suddenly Pep took it on leaps and bounds again. Watching anything pre 2010 in England is a drag.

 

[dennishasdoneit]

HOOF. regain possession...HOOF!

Used to be the same pattern every game. Now you can watch Burnley vs Swansea in the Championship and see way more movement and positional play than you saw between Man United vs Chelsea in 2009.

In Europe, English teams got dominated in possession figures by Spaniards and practically everyone else, now it's reversed. I'm convinced those old Man United teams would get destroyed by several teams in todays era, they literally had 0 tactics other than hoofing it.

I'd say it was maybe 2011, 2012? Swansea and Brendan Rodgers entered the league playing nice football, City under Mancini started playing some nice football too. Then Poch came, Klopp.. and suddenly Pep took it on leaps and bounds again. Watching anything pre 2010 in England is a drag.

Arsenal under Wenger played Exquisite football. Definitely not kick and rush.
Forest under Clough.ball passed resolutely on the ground.
City under Mercer/ Allison.great to watch.
Spurs 1960/61. Push and run style,attractive to watch by all accounts.
Ipswich Town under Bobby Robson with Muhren and Tyissen? Late 70s / early 80s.

 

[Crouchinho]

HOOF. regain possession...HOOF!

Used to be the same pattern every game. Now you can watch Burnley vs Swansea in the Championship and see way more movement and positional play than you saw between Man United vs Chelsea in 2009.

In Europe, English teams got dominated in possession figures by Spaniards and practically everyone else, now it's reversed. I'm convinced those old Man United teams would get destroyed by several teams in todays era, they literally had 0 tactics other than hoofing it.

I'd say it was maybe 2011, 2012? Swansea and Brendan Rodgers entered the league playing nice football, City under Mancini started playing some nice football too. Then Poch came, Klopp.. and suddenly Pep took it on leaps and bounds again. Watching anything pre 2010 in England is a drag.

There have always been teams that can keep the ball better than others. I always found the weaker the team the more chance of the long ball.

Leicester managed to have an average 34% posession all season when they won the league. That was always pretty crazy for me

 

[WNRH]

When pitches became carpets for six year olds.

 

[KS55]

When pitches became carpets for six year olds.

Yup. English teams agricultural football was mandated by playing on mud heaps.

 

[KentBlue]

It's one of the many things about the media in this country that irritates me - their total reluctance to write anything negative about the rags. They love to paint an image of the Pisscan getting his team to play on the ground: intricate passing, off-ball manoeuvres, intelligent play, etc. A complete fabrication.
It was always: Schmeichel bounces the ball a few times, and then gives it a hefty boot up to the other end. Hit and hope. Or it would be either Ratboy or his brother Herman just hoofing it as far away as possible.
And if it wasn't long-ball it was the boring and predictable old English style: a fast winger hurtling down the sides and then launching it into the opposition penalty area. A style so beloved of 'Twitcher' Redknapp.

We actually used to joke that the Govan despot got his tactics from watching table-tennis. But to listen to Tyler, Richard Keys and the rest of Sly's anal-polishers, you'd have thought he was finest tactician to ever grace the game.

I believe it's only since Pep arrived in this country that the game has changed for the better. We see more and more teams playing out from the back, we see more and more teams keeping the ball on the ground and playing slide-rule passes. Most players like to play that way, most spectators prefer to watch their teams play that way, and most TV viewers prefer to see 'easy-on-the-eye' football instead of 90 minutes of brain-melting hoofball.

 

[Ithryn Luin]

The press and pundits used to fawn over Whisky nose and his so called "football". Then along came Pep and Barca to humiliate them in the 2009 and 2011 CL finals playing sublime football!

 

[dublinblue12]

Fergusons game if I remember was get it to the wingers and put a cross in or cut inside if I remember correctly, the United way

 

[KentBlue]

The press and pundits used to fawn over Whisky nose and his so called "football". Then along came Pep and Barca to humiliate them in the 2009 and 2011 CL finals playing sublime football!

Yep. The football City are playing is arguably the best in European football. One-touch, pass, move forward. It's like chess in that it is so intricate and yet so pleasing. But of course, because we don't play in red so we don't get a mention in the tabloids about how wonderful our football is. Those spaces are reserved for 'who the rags might buy,' 'who the rags should buy' and 'why ten bob is a tactical genius from whom Pep has a lot to learn'.

 

[West Yorks Owl]

It's one of the many things about the media in this country that irritates me - their total reluctance to write anything negative about the rags. They love to paint an image of the Pisscan getting his team to play on the ground: intricate passing, off-ball manoeuvres, intelligent play, etc. A complete fabrication.
It was always: Schmeichel bounces the ball a few times, and then gives it a hefty boot up to the other end. Hit and hope. Or it would be either Ratboy or his brother Herman just hoofing it as far away as possible.
And if it wasn't long-ball it was the boring and predictable old English style: a fast winger hurtling down the sides and then launching it into the opposition penalty area. A style so beloved of 'Twitcher' Redknapp.

We actually used to joke that the Govan despot got his tactics from watching table-tennis. But to listen to Tyler, Richard Keys and the rest of Sly's anal-polishers, you'd have thought he was finest tactician to ever grace the game.

I believe it's only since Pep arrived in this country that the game has changed for the better. We see more and more teams playing out from the back, we see more and more teams keeping the ball on the ground and playing slide-rule passes. Most players like to play that way, most spectators prefer to watch their teams play that way, and most TV viewers prefer to see 'easy-on-the-eye' football instead of 90 minutes of brain-melting hoofball.

You have to remember too that "Hoof ball" is only played by unfashionable teams in the eyes of the media, if their darlings are smashing 60 yard balls out from the back it's a cultured pass.