manimanc
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A nice carpet and a six pointed star on the wall.
Proper enough?
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When you die, are you really dead ?
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Proper enough?
northwichblue
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Right who's going to volunteer
Blue Llama
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Not according to a girl I once dated, a spiritualist.
kaz7
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I know a lot about brain damage,i dream in vivid HD now,sometimes i can't tell if i imagined something or not,sometimes i can stare at words and still can't "see" it,i blurt out my first thoughts in the absense of a proper filter and many other things,i am leaving my brain to science so i had better be dead or maybe by then they can hook me up to a machine and i can live without my body,in 20 yrs time maybe we don't die at all
northwichblue
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I know a lot about brain damage,i dream in vivid HD now,sometimes i can't tell if i imagined something or not,sometimes i can stare at words and still can't "see" it,i blurt out my first thoughts in the absense of a proper filter and many other things,i am leaving my brain to science so i had better be dead or maybe by then they can hook me up to a machine and i can live without my body,in 20 yrs time maybe we don't die at all
Fuckin hell Kaz
BlueMoonRisin’
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Nobody knows, we only have belief and faith to grasp should be choose to. Me? I think that when you die you don't die. You live on in spirit form. And no naysayers will convince me otherwise. I don't know I just believe. Only I know the love pain and rock bottom mental suffering I've gone through, and the weird personal experiences I've had. I'm not religious or a bible basher either
Ghosts. Seen same ghost twice. Outer body experience, well I believe I had one. UFO. Oh hang in BMR is fuckin' nuts, the next Hodge or arfurclue. No they are their own person, with their own beliefs however hard to grasp and comprehend without suffering the usual bluemoan ridicule that hounds a poster off!
The UFO I witnessed was in1984(iirc) and broadcast on Piccadilly radio news of the sighting of an onion densified (that was Google Voice type btw, love their typos) flying object. I was night fishing at the time in Stalybridge.
Much more to this life than we can ever explain. Some really intelligent posters have contributed their views, but seriously, how the fuck can you say there is no afterlife and we don't have a soul? I'm being serious on this topic btw. I really won't get offended if you all dub me as a fuckin' random fruitloop. I've been there, but now I am of rational mind and completely sober right now thank you: )
If your mind is always closed and you just plod on the same routine you'll most probably never believe much or experience much of the unexplained, however well read you are. Try opening your mind and maybe you'll see things differently than what your own narrow angle mind can process. I'm more well lived than well read btw and here to take cheap pot shots if it satisfies. I really don't mind that as when you can laugh in the face of adversity at your lowest ebb, then you can laugh at yourself. And I often have and still do ; )
Ghosts. Seen same ghost twice. Outer body experience, well I believe I had one. UFO. Oh hang in BMR is fuckin' nuts, the next Hodge or arfurclue. No they are their own person, with their own beliefs however hard to grasp and comprehend without suffering the usual bluemoan ridicule that hounds a poster off!
The UFO I witnessed was in1984(iirc) and broadcast on Piccadilly radio news of the sighting of an onion densified (that was Google Voice type btw, love their typos) flying object. I was night fishing at the time in Stalybridge.
Much more to this life than we can ever explain. Some really intelligent posters have contributed their views, but seriously, how the fuck can you say there is no afterlife and we don't have a soul? I'm being serious on this topic btw. I really won't get offended if you all dub me as a fuckin' random fruitloop. I've been there, but now I am of rational mind and completely sober right now thank you: )
If your mind is always closed and you just plod on the same routine you'll most probably never believe much or experience much of the unexplained, however well read you are. Try opening your mind and maybe you'll see things differently than what your own narrow angle mind can process. I'm more well lived than well read btw and here to take cheap pot shots if it satisfies. I really don't mind that as when you can laugh in the face of adversity at your lowest ebb, then you can laugh at yourself. And I often have and still do ; )
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Two Gun Bob
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Death can be scary or just an intrinsic part of our short lives. I was not afraid of being born and neither do I fear death unlike a lot of olden folk in our complex that now go to church every week because they think they are playing their fat big joker card like on that program It's A Knockout. Churches are full of olden folk people because the coffin dodgers are proper proper dobbing themselves as they know what's coming and so most are hoping for some form of redemption. If he is up there then I personally don't like the guy for everything hes done and everything hes not done on this beautiful spinning sphere we call Earth and would sooner cast my lot in with Old Nick but that's just my opinion and that's if of course he does exist ? I have no doubt that if he does exist he will give me a proper woman slap and dig for saying all of the above as the book of Genesis has taught us us he could proper have his angry mad moments.
So what in my humble opinion is coming with regard to death ? Well you have to stop breathing first and then your heart stop pumping and finally cessation of brain actitivity and ulemitly clinical death. Then regrettably your body will start to break down with a autlysis or what we know as decomposition as our cells become deprived of oxgen and their acidity increases as the toxic byproducts of chemical reaction begin to gather inside. Enzymes will start to gobble cell membranes and then leak out as the cells break down. Damaged blood cells begin to spill out of broken vessels and aided by gravity setle in the capilaries shading skin and our blood will begin to gravitate downwards as our circulatory system stops working causing hyperstasis staining.
And Then after all that you get disposed of in a manner of your choosing or that dictated by your loved ones and whether this is in the form a Viking funeral Buriel at sea, Worm bait or the Crem and pulmeriser the end result is the same. Even if you somehow miraculously survived all this by divine intervention then it would do you little good as you would not be able to chat with those gone before you. If St Peter asks when you get up to the pearly gates are you repentant for sinning in your past life, you desperately want to profess your sins with a fresh start but you cant because all you do is muffle and mumble and groan because the cock handed undertaker down below took the liberty of sewing your mouth tight shut with twine so effectively your a mute and get thrown to hell because you couldn't say sorry as your lips wont work and not even a VAR in place to back you up. So smile always because this ride is the only ride we are getting and how blessed are we all to have partaken of the wonderful journey....Have a quick listen to this snippet below from a very good pal of mine called Professor Dawkins and I hope and pray to my Lord Crom that I have not bored you with incessant waffle as that was not my intention. Happy New year and think not what you can give up for the next decade but what you can add to'' Like more cake more beer more gin more holidays in the Dorm and more Moonwalking. In the immortal words of my Spartan king Leonidas Eat Drink and be Merry for tonight we dine in Hades !
“We are going to die, and that makes us the lucky ones. Most people are never going to die because they are never going to be born. The potential people who could have been here in my place but who will in fact never see the light of day outnumber the sand grains of Arabia. Certainly those unborn ghosts include greater poets than Keats, scientists greater than Newton. We know this because the set of possible people allowed by our DNA so massively exceeds the set of actual people. In the teeth of these stupefying odds it is you and I, in our ordinariness, that are here.We privileged few, who won the lottery of birth against all odds, how dare we whine at our inevitable return to that prior state from which the vast majority have never stirred?”
So what in my humble opinion is coming with regard to death ? Well you have to stop breathing first and then your heart stop pumping and finally cessation of brain actitivity and ulemitly clinical death. Then regrettably your body will start to break down with a autlysis or what we know as decomposition as our cells become deprived of oxgen and their acidity increases as the toxic byproducts of chemical reaction begin to gather inside. Enzymes will start to gobble cell membranes and then leak out as the cells break down. Damaged blood cells begin to spill out of broken vessels and aided by gravity setle in the capilaries shading skin and our blood will begin to gravitate downwards as our circulatory system stops working causing hyperstasis staining.
And Then after all that you get disposed of in a manner of your choosing or that dictated by your loved ones and whether this is in the form a Viking funeral Buriel at sea, Worm bait or the Crem and pulmeriser the end result is the same. Even if you somehow miraculously survived all this by divine intervention then it would do you little good as you would not be able to chat with those gone before you. If St Peter asks when you get up to the pearly gates are you repentant for sinning in your past life, you desperately want to profess your sins with a fresh start but you cant because all you do is muffle and mumble and groan because the cock handed undertaker down below took the liberty of sewing your mouth tight shut with twine so effectively your a mute and get thrown to hell because you couldn't say sorry as your lips wont work and not even a VAR in place to back you up. So smile always because this ride is the only ride we are getting and how blessed are we all to have partaken of the wonderful journey....Have a quick listen to this snippet below from a very good pal of mine called Professor Dawkins and I hope and pray to my Lord Crom that I have not bored you with incessant waffle as that was not my intention. Happy New year and think not what you can give up for the next decade but what you can add to'' Like more cake more beer more gin more holidays in the Dorm and more Moonwalking. In the immortal words of my Spartan king Leonidas Eat Drink and be Merry for tonight we dine in Hades !
“We are going to die, and that makes us the lucky ones. Most people are never going to die because they are never going to be born. The potential people who could have been here in my place but who will in fact never see the light of day outnumber the sand grains of Arabia. Certainly those unborn ghosts include greater poets than Keats, scientists greater than Newton. We know this because the set of possible people allowed by our DNA so massively exceeds the set of actual people. In the teeth of these stupefying odds it is you and I, in our ordinariness, that are here.We privileged few, who won the lottery of birth against all odds, how dare we whine at our inevitable return to that prior state from which the vast majority have never stirred?”
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kaz7
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Ha,explains a few things rightFuckin hell Kaz
kaz7
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Blimey T ,the prof has a good take on it thoughDeath can be scary or just an intrinsic part of our short lives. I was not afraid of being born and neither do I fear death unlike a lot of olden folk in our complex that now go to church every week because they think they are playing their fat big joker card like on that program It's A Knockout. Churches are full of olden folk people because the coffin dodgers are proper proper dobbing themselves as they know what's coming and so most are hoping for some form of redemption. If he is up there then I personally don't like the guy for everything hes done and everything hes not done on this beautiful spinning sphere we call Earth and would sooner cast my lot in with Old Nick but that's just my opinion and that's if of course he does exist ? I have no doubt that if he does exist he will give me a proper woman slap and dig for saying all of the above as the book of Genesis has taught us us he could proper have his angry mad moments.
So what in my humble opinion is coming with regard to death ? Well you have to stop breathing first and then your heart stop pumping and finally cessation of brain actitivity and ulemitly clinical death. Then regrettably your body will start to break down with a autlysis or what we know as decomposition as our cells become deprived of oxgen and their acidity increases as the toxic byproducts of chemical reaction begin to gather inside. Enzymes will start to gobble cell membranes and then leak out as the cells break down. Damaged blood cells begin to spill out of broken vessels and aided by gravity setle in the capilaries shading skin and our blood will begin to gravitate downwards as our circulatory system stops working causing hyperstasis staining.
And Then after all that you get disposed of in a manner of your choosing or that dictated by your loved ones and whether this is in the form a Viking funeral Buriel at sea, Worm bait or the Crem and pulmeriser the end result is the same. Even if you somehow miraculously survived all this by divine intervention then it would do you little good as you would not be able to chat with those gone before you. If St Peter asks when you get up to the pearly gates are you repentant for sinning in your past life, you desperately want to profess your sins with a fresh start but you cant because all you do is muffle and mumble and groan because the cock handed undertaker down below took the liberty of sewing your mouth tight shut with twine so effectively your a mute and get thrown to hell because you couldn't say sorry as your lips wont work and not even a VAR in place to back you up. So smile always because this ride is the only ride we are getting and how blessed are we all to have partaken of the wonderful journey....Have a quick listen to this snippet below from a very good pal of mine called Professor Dawkins and I hope and pray to my Lord Crom that I have not bored you with incessant waffle as that was not my intention. Happy New year and think not what you can give up for the next decade but what you can add to'' Like more cake more beer more gin more holidays in the Dorm and more Moonwalking. In the immortal words of my Spartan king Leonidas Eat Drink and be Merry for tonight we dine in Hades !
“We are going to die, and that makes us the lucky ones. Most people are never going to die because they are never going to be born. The potential people who could have been here in my place but who will in fact never see the light of day outnumber the sand grains of Arabia. Certainly those unborn ghosts include greater poets than Keats, scientists greater than Newton. We know this because the set of possible people allowed by our DNA so massively exceeds the set of actual people. In the teeth of these stupefying odds it is you and I, in our ordinariness, that are here.We privileged few, who won the lottery of birth against all odds, how dare we whine at our inevitable return to that prior state from which the vast majority have never stirred?”
right just getting back from the dead, because from the cave they put me in ?? somebody put a fucking great big rock in the door way blocking my way out
PS
the shining light of all this was from putting me on that cross ?? my 30 year old back pain as gone, down side is i got pins and needles in my hands and feet but i can live with that, and wait to i find that bloke who put the nails in my feet and hands ? fancy using wrought iron, i think i have got blood poisoning
look at me always fuck moaning about something and never happy you think i hate life
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the shining light of all this was from putting me on that cross ?? my 30 year old back pain as gone, down side is i got pins and needles in my hands and feet but i can live with that, and wait to i find that bloke who put the nails in my feet and hands ? fancy using wrought iron, i think i have got blood poisoning
look at me always fuck moaning about something and never happy you think i hate life