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Prestwich_Blue

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I've been keeping a spreadsheet for this season, keeping track of how we're doing against various criteria and thought after last night might be a good time to share it.

I started with the premise that, based on analysis of the last few seasons, we might need 87 points to win the title, 52 at home and 35 away. That gave an average points per game (ppg) requirement of 2.74 at home and 1.84 away. So far, we should be on just under 34 points and we actually have 38 so we're 4 points ahead of target and therefore potentially on for 91 points as things stand.

Looking at the 35 away points, we've already got 17 of those so need 6 wins from 11 games (which include trips to Wigan, Sunderland, West Brom, Villa, Norwich, Wolves, Swansea, Stoke & Everton, as well as Arsenal & Newcastle) to make that 35 point target. Any points more than that will obviously offset any we might lose at home as, according to my model, we can only drop 5.

In addition, I've also measured the points gained compared to the equivalent game last season, with the games against the promoted clubs being compared to the ones against the relegated clubs last season. On that measure, we're still 9 points ahead based on the equivalent games.

So although last night was a disappointment, we're still well on track on every measure. If I changed the ppg required so that it was skewed between top and bottom half teams, then we'd probably be even more comfortable.
 
Interesting.

But I don't need a spreadsheet to tell me we're the team to beat in the league. Just look how much the Chelsea fans celebrated last night. You'd have thought they'd won a trophy ffs.

We're the best team in the league, two points ahead and scored the most goals. Disappointed about last night but we were hardly outplayed.

Game on.
 
Really good read that PB - makes me quite excited consideirng we are nearly halfway through the season.

PS - You really need a girlfriend - too much spare time... ;-)
 
Great work PB although I will say that Utd are also doing better this season than last (despite playing awfully - which is a worry)
 
The only problem with is is that this season is somewhat of an anomoly.

Until last night we'd only dropped 4 points out of a possible 42. Chelsea currently have more points than they did last season but are 7 points of the lead despite beating us (the league leaders) last night.

The team finishing 2nd this year could end up with more points than the Rags got last year.
 
salfordblues said:
The only problem with is is that this season is somewhat of an anomoly.

Until last night we'd only dropped 4 points out of a possible 42. Chelsea currently have more points than they did last season but are 7 points of the lead despite beating us (the league leaders) last night.

The team finishing 2nd this year could end up with more points than the Rags got last year.
On my basic calculation, the rags are 1 point up on the 87 point mark as they've played more home games.
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
salfordblues said:
The only problem with is is that this season is somewhat of an anomoly.

Until last night we'd only dropped 4 points out of a possible 42. Chelsea currently have more points than they did last season but are 7 points of the lead despite beating us (the league leaders) last night.

The team finishing 2nd this year could end up with more points than the Rags got last year.
On my basic calculation, the rags are 1 point up on the 87 point mark as they've played more home games.

They've also still got most of their "tough" away trips to come. Anfield is the only ground they've been to, they've played us, Spurs, Arsenal and Chelsea all at Old Trafford. Their away point accumulation in the New Year may well drop off.
 
Matty said:
Prestwich_Blue said:
salfordblues said:
The only problem with is is that this season is somewhat of an anomoly.

Until last night we'd only dropped 4 points out of a possible 42. Chelsea currently have more points than they did last season but are 7 points of the lead despite beating us (the league leaders) last night.

The team finishing 2nd this year could end up with more points than the Rags got last year.
On my basic calculation, the rags are 1 point up on the 87 point mark as they've played more home games.

They've also still got most of their "tough" away trips to come. Anfield is the only ground they've been to, they've played us, Spurs, Arsenal and Chelsea all at Old Trafford. Their away point accumulation in the New Year may well drop off.

But they always improve in the second half of the season and don't forget that Cleverley has still to return from injury.

Even though we've played the likes of Spuds, Liverpool, Scum & Chelsea away we've now got to play the shite that we dropped points against away too. The likes of Everton & Wolves.

We're performing well above any of our expectations and if we continue with the same form we've shown so far then I think we'll win the league with 8 points spare.

Is the BBC season predictor available? I haven't looked at it yet.
 
Matty said:
Prestwich_Blue said:
salfordblues said:
The only problem with is is that this season is somewhat of an anomoly.

Until last night we'd only dropped 4 points out of a possible 42. Chelsea currently have more points than they did last season but are 7 points of the lead despite beating us (the league leaders) last night.

The team finishing 2nd this year could end up with more points than the Rags got last year.
On my basic calculation, the rags are 1 point up on the 87 point mark as they've played more home games.

They've also still got most of their "tough" away trips to come. Anfield is the only ground they've been to, they've played us, Spurs, Arsenal and Chelsea all at Old Trafford. Their away point accumulation in the New Year may well drop off.

Agreed, we still have our Home games in hand against some of the serious title contenders ala Chelski in March, Spurs in Jan and rags in April and I think we'll beat most, if not all of them at home. Matty is right, Rags are not a good looking team this season, they've lost Vidic too, so I think they'll lose out on a few 3pts with draws. Chelsea had to play 10 v 11 and still couldn't score until a penalty was given, so I don't think they are back to good form at all, they just got a lucky 3pts at home.

I think PB has done some pretty classy analysis and it looks like we're are looking good! Can't wait for the Arsenal game on Sunday!
 

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