Who is the Best All-Around Player England Has Ever Produced?

[bennyboy]

Are we saying the same Rooney who has scored less goals than John Stones in the World Cup finals stage.
Or is there another Rooney I have forgotten about.

 

[dennishasdoneit]

Rooney could play anywhere

But he didn't.thats the issue

 

[BlueHammer85]

But he didn't.thats the issue

He played main striker for Man U for a few years - scoring 34 in one season
then he played attacking mid, some on the wing
then he played many games centre/defensive mid

What position did Rooney play under Alex Ferguson?

Wayne Rooney reveals he HATED playing as a central striker for Manchester United because he 'wanted to get involved'... despite netting 34 goals in one season

thefootballlovers.com

 

[dennishasdoneit]

I'd say its the rocks for brains that actually made him the player he was.

Footballing ability is nothing without also having self-confidence, especially where 'flair' players are concerned.

Most people with any level of intelligence hold a certain degree of self doubt and self analysis which can impede their natural ability.

Gascoigne's lack of intellect meant his self-confidence was off the scale which allowed him to demonstrate his flair completely unencumbered by any hesitancy or feelings of self doubt.

I can remember reading about him as a teenager first training with the Newcastle 1st team squad..he used to demand the ball off senior pros,and berate them when he didn't get it! Confidence off the scale.
It's when he wasn't playing that self doubt set in....

In later years Gary lineaker said Gazza doesn't pass you the ball he lends it to you...and I can remember so many of his surging runs from centre mid where he'd attack the very heart of the oppennent,and just at the point where he may be tackled,release the ball to the forward and run intelligently into space for the return,but he used to fire the ball at pace, so that the only thing u could do was give it back to him...

The so called Wall Pass..or one two if u like.

Loved to watch him play football, even if he always seem to score against us,over the years.The amount of times his rampaging runs led to him completely bypassing a static defence ..and boy could he finish.
Cool as you like,making a keeper look silly,often dribbling round him after making him sit down before poking into an empty net.

Great player.but definitely not an all rounder.

 

[dennishasdoneit]

He played main striker for Man U for a few years - scoring 34 in one season
then he played attacking mid, some on the wing
then he played many games centre/defensive mid

What position did Rooney play under Alex Ferguson?

Wayne Rooney reveals he HATED playing as a central striker for Manchester United because he 'wanted to get involved'... despite netting 34 goals in one season

thefootballlovers.com

I didn't know that,if that's correct he played defensive mid,it passed me by.i stand corrected .

 

[dennishasdoneit]

Have heard old time blues insist Edwards’s was destined to be the best player of his generation. Same with Peter Doherty being City’s best ever player. Difficult to judge fairly across generations and so many players lost prime years like Doherty and Matthews. Best I have seen would be between Keegan who made the best of his ability and Gascogne. Rooney in his first tournament was frightening but never really hit those heights often enough to stay in the debate.

Great point made about many players losing their prime years .
Very sad that.

 

[BlueHammer85]

I didn't know that,if that's correct he played defensive mid,it passed me by.i stand corrected .

yep many games in midfield for Man Utd and at the end of his career for Derby/America side he went

 

[dennishasdoneit]

yep many games in midfield for Man Utd and at the end of his career for Derby/America side he went

I think the last two sides he played dont really support your view...
Imo.can remember derby losing an important match at QPR when he was caught in possession and the oppennent broke away and scored.
From what I can remember his derby midfield days were not great.

 

[BlueHammer85]

I think the less two sides he played dont really support your view...
Imo.can remember derby losing an important match at QPR when he was caught in possession and the oppennent broke away and scored.
From what I can remember his derby midfield days were not great.

Think age caught up with him mainly but still most were favourable of his time there

Wayne Rooney: Championship Player Watch - The Coaches' Voice

Wayne Rooney excelled in a new midfield role for Derby County before retiring from playing to become their manager

www.coachesvoice.com

 

[LongsightM13]

CB Fry was meant to be pretty good at most things

And City’s very own Max Woosnam

Max Woosnam - Wikipedia

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