Who should be the next leader of the Tory party?

supercity88 said:
It changed from state funded to fee paying whilst he was there, but he didn't pay fees. He wouldn't have been able to go. And there in lies a clear difference between him and Sunak...and the majority of Tory MPs.

What his parents did isn't irrelevant at all. We're all shaped and moulded by our parents. I grew up comfortably middle class. My Mum was a teacher and my Dad a surveyor. Both of my parents had working class upbringings. But my Dad's was particularly tough. Every evening in the winter he would come in from work and shout at us for having the lights on but not having all the curtains closed. In the summer he'd also often have the curtains closed. I never really thought anything of it. But when my Mum died I went to see my Dad and he was sat in the lounge in darkness, in the middle of the day - curtains drawn. I opened them all up and finally decided to question this odd behaviour. When he was a kid, his parents couldn't afford electricity so his Dad tapped into the grid and sourced it illegally. They closed the curtains to avoid being caught. That was such a profound part of his childhood, his Mum living in fear, that he was unable to shake it even all these years later. His Mum was a dinnerlady and his tea was left over bits from those dinners at school. To this day he doesn't have gravy with a roast because of the state of what he was served as a kid.

You don't lose the grounding you have as a child. If you had to work to survive or saw how your parents needed to, you have more empathy for others in that situation. If you think, like Badenoch, that working in McDonald's whilst at university (bankrolled by parents) means you know what it's like then you are a million fucking miles away from what life is like for many. If Kemi had grown up in south london in abject poverty, with Nigerian ancestry she would have most likely been working in McDonalds as a career. Her lack of awareness of this fact is profound.
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Good post and no too dissimilar from my position other than it was my father who died at a very early age.
I don’t think it can be disputed that there is parental influence.
Show me the father and I will show you the son. Etc.
But at some stage we all have to be judged as individuals not what we are born in to.
It’s this pigeon hole mentality that I am questioning.
If your a Tory your automatically born in to wealth and privilege yet if your Labour your background and current position is irrelevant even if you mirror someone from the Tory Party.
A blinkered approach.
 
hilts said:
You most certainly are.
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Define?

Socialism means ownership by the workers.

I support that in some instances and sectors but not all or even the majority. I don't believe in creating a classless society.

I am not an idealogue. I am a left wing social Democrat.
 
Back on topic. None are fit for the job. All are out of their depth, self-serving liars. Their party has shifted so far to the right that, whoever becomes PM, whilst they remain in control with this current majority, things are only going to get worse.
 
halfmist said:
If he has any sense and I am sure he has, he will avoid leading the Labour, or any other party.
Again your missing the point.
If it’s a Tory with a few quid, even if self made, the left always say out of touch with reality, cannot possibly relate to the working classes.
However, some of the working classes clearly vote Tory as the best Party to represent them otherwise they would never get elected.
On here they are then told they are thick bastards for doing so by those in the know.
Now if your Labour, it’s a different set of rules.
They may have followed exactly the same path as the Tory but they are beyond criticism.
Very narrow minded and a one size fits all approach.
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Your point appears to be that if you are successful in your career irrespective of your personal circumstances and you go into politics, that success precludes you from leading the Labour Party unless you spent a few years as a delivery driver or a factory worker first. Very strange outlook.
 
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