Who should be the next leader of the Tory party?

Sunak and Javid where the two major resignations that sparked Johnson’s removal, which means they are unlikely to get the job.
 
Seeing as the Conservatives want to streamline the selection process for their next leadership race I have an idea for them on how to whittle down the early candidates.

Disqualify anyone who broke the law while serving as a government minister. So anyone who received a fixed penalty notice during #Partygate should immediately have their candidacy rejected and then see who's left standing. Not too many I'd reckon.
 
None of them inspire any confidence, none of them will be honest, none of them will have conviction, none of them will have a plan, and none of them will do anything other than pretend they are delivering when the reality is, after 12 years of tory mismanagement, they couldn't deliver a pizza or manage a corner shop.

They'll all, in their way, be full of bluster and bullshit with their vacuous promises about sunlit futures and how they are going to make the UK a powerhouse that will be the envy of the world, but whoever is chosen, it will be business as usual and the slow but steady decline of the country will continue.

!2 years of tory rule has produced the largest decline in living standards since the 1950's, the greatest imbalance of wealth in our history, and nothing will change because whichever candidate is chosen, all of them are complicit in that simple fact.
 
JRockBlues said:
Seeing as the Conservatives want to streamline the selection process for their next leadership race I have an idea for them on how to whittle down the early candidates.

Disqualify anyone who broke the law while serving as a government minister. So anyone who received a fixed penalty notice during #Partygate should immediately have their candidacy rejected and then see who's left standing. Not too many I'd reckon.
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If they did that they’d be dragging Ken Clarke out of the House of Lords to be Pm. How can Sunak be in the mix for pm? He is just as slippery and on the take as his old boss, the non dom status of his mrs should have killed off any credibility he has as a politician. Not to mention another covid party attender.

Javid going on about a reset, he is another one who is complicit. Every trace of this right wing, racist, populist government should be removed. You do that and then you would end up with the pro eu back benchers in charge, then you have the weird paranoid gammons screeching that our hard fought brexit will be reversed and taken away. We are paralysed as a country at the moment when we can’t afford not to be.
 
Sunak is clearly loathed by Johnson’s supporters- they see him as treacherous and having instigated the collapse- and he’s clearly savvy enough to know that tax cuts are currently imprudent, which means he’s alienating many of the shire Tories who know nothing but and see low taxation as the panacea.

Strip away the personal issues and he’s probably the most sensible candidate and the one who will have a grasp of the country’s financial mess (some of it his own making), but if he faces off against Truss in the final two, the membership might prefer her more traditional message.
 
Rascal said:
Tax is thought of in terms on income tax. Income tax should be progressive as in the more you have the more that you pay either through income or wealth. When I started work I paid 33% tax on my income which i considered fair, under Thatcher that was dropped to 20%, it didn't make much material difference to me as I didn't earn that much but the optics are good if you are a believer in the RW ideology of a small state. Lowering taxes on those who earn most gives them a significant differential, one that arguably they do not need either as they are already well paid. The argument that those who earn most pay the highest percentage of the tax take so they should pay the same as everyone else as advocated by the flat tax rate mob would probably mean those with least facing tax rises to cover the loss of income in tax take from those with most. I see absolutely no problem with a graded income tax system where as the more you earn the more you pay, It is surely not above the wit of man to devise such a system especially with the new technology we have. For instance and this is just an example

earn up to £10k pay 10%
earn up to £20k pay 15%
earn up to £30k pay 20%
earn up to £40k pay 25%
earn up to £50k pay 30%

and so on until it reaches lets say 60% ...

The Tax that is a real bug bear for me is VAT, because that is regressive. It effects those who have the highest propensity to spend the most i.e the less well off. Cutting VAT now would be a real boon for those who are struggling with the cost of living and now we have left the EU we can do that.

Then there is corporation tax , that has to be overhauled and sorted out so that it is paid properly at a decent rate and not continually cut in a race to the bottom which only suits the corporations who take advantage of our infrastructure without giving anything back.
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The advantage of VAT is that it is a consumption tax which nobody can evade other than by not purchasing the goods/services in question.. Taxes on wealth (income or capital) are too easily evaded.

It would be perfectly possibly to increase VAT but cut income tax to the point where for everybody earning below a certain level the effect would be cost-neutral - you pay less tax when you earn, but more when you spend and the two cancel each other out - but those who are able to avoid wealth taxes at present via domicile arrangements etc pay their fair share. This would apply to companies as much as individuals so the same problems with avoiding Corporation Tax do not arise.

Not that I think anyone would actually do this.
 
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