Why PC gaming

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Whilst the console kiddies get all excited I think it's time for a reminder as to why PC gaming is so awesome.

Backwards compatibility
Out of the major console manufacturers none of the console manufacturers has anything like a perfect record of supporting the previous console. The Xbox was only partially compatible with the 360, the 360 isn’t at all compatible with the Xbox One. The PS2 was backwards compatible, however the PS3 was only partially backwards compatible and only the versions with the Emotion chip which added expense to the machine. PS4 not at all backwards compatible. Nintendo is probably the best but even then it’s patchy, for instance there was zero compatibility between the N64 and the Gamecube. However, the PC is so backwards compatible that I can play games from the 90s, and early noughties, and no, I’m not joking. Will post screenshots. This means I have a terrific game collection which spans basically my whole life. From Assassins Creed IV, released this very month to an open-source clone of Transport Tycoon originally released in 1994, to all N64 games, Red Alert 2 and Metal Gear Solid 2 released in 2000, Generals in 2003 etc.

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Full list of current installed games:
  • Assassin’s Creed IV, Assassin’s Creed III, Assassin’s Creed Brotherhood and Assassin’s Creed II
  • Grand Theft Auto IV and Episodes From Liberty City (I have San Andreas, Vice City and GTA III and they all work too and can be installed in minutes).
  • Command & Conquer Red Alert 3 and Uprising ‘expansion’ (really a standalone), Generals and Red Alert 2
  • Just Cause 2
  • Mafia II
  • L.A. Noire
  • FIFA 14
  • Call of Duty Black Ops (have Black Ops II but not installed at moment), Modern Warfare 3, Modern Warfare 2, and World at War. Ghosts is out for PC but haven’t got it yet.
  • Battlefront II
  • Metal Gear Solid 2
  • Sims 3
  • OpenTTD

Got to love a game from 1994 running in 2013:
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Futureproofing
Linking into the point above, because PCs are manufactured with upgrades in mind, games are somewhat futureproofed meaning that even though current hardware might not be capable of delivering the graphics the game developer wants you to have, future upgrades make it a possibility. I will post some screenshots to show what I mean.

[bigimg]http://i.imgur.com/BWSvNYJ.png[/bigimg]
Possibly you won't remember, but I can guarantee you that Metal Gear Solid 2 (Substance edition), released ten years ago in 2003, didn't look this good on your PS2.

For instance, in the future, even though my PC is currently nowhere near being able to run 4k games, plus I don’t have a 4k monitor, Assassins Creed IV has 4k built-in, so when I do get that hardware, as I will eventually, it will look even more spectacular, whereas the console versions will stay the same.

Flexibility
Now this is a big point and perhaps it should be split into three separate ones (Mouse & Keyboard, Modding and Emulators) but hopefully, you’ll see what I’m going for when I say flexibility.

Easy one to start with – how easy it is to jump between a mouse/keyboard and a control pad. The official Xbox 360 wireless controller is available for PC so you can have console controls for games which suit it better – driving games, platformers. Then switch to mouse/keyboard for First Person Shooters. It’s so flexible in fact, that during GTA IV, where I mostly use mouse/keyboard, for the helicopter missions, where mouse/keyboard is very difficult, I just turn on the controller and seconds later I can use the controller. Then as soon as I’m out of the chopper and needing to gun someone down, back to mouse/keyboard I go.

Another is that PCs allow you to mod easily. There are some amazing mods, especially for the most popular games out there. The modding community practically create whole new games at times, and add very popular features in others. During GTA IV, did the lack of businesses piss you off? <a class="postlink" href="http://www.gta4-mods.com/script/farnsworths-business-mod-complete-v2-f21460" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.gta4-mods.com/script/farnswo ... -v2-f21460</a> Or did you want real car looks and names? <a class="postlink" href="http://www.gta4-mods.com/vehicles/realistic-car-pack-v4-f8054" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.gta4-mods.com/vehicles/reali ... k-v4-f8054</a> Or want to cruise around in the Batman Tumbler? <a class="postlink" href="http://www.gta4-mods.com/textures/hd-batman-tumbler-retexture-v2-f17027" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.gta4-mods.com/textures/hd-ba ... -v2-f17027</a> Or perhaps some nude mods, always good fun.

Finally, there’s the emulators. Not always perfect (except Project64 which is very close) but again as PCs move forward and the emulators get better, not only can PCs play PC games from any era with little to no trouble usually, they can play past console games with a time lag. Witness a 32 MB ROM of Ocarina of Time transformed into a thing of beauty running in 1600 x 1200 resolution – it has no right looking this good for a game that’s fifteen years old and crammed into just 32 MB:
[bigimg]http://i.imgur.com/4PThlsN.png[/bigimg] [bigimg]http://i.imgur.com/NuzsQKp.png[/bigimg] [bigimg]http://i.imgur.com/pBLF0vo.png[/bigimg]

That's why PC gaming, console kiddies. Please note, it's all in good fun. I own consoles too. :-)
 
The glorious PC master race has spoken. Long live the master race.

PC shits all over consoles FACT.


seriously though nice post well written and set out not something I expected to see on BM,
 
I can't use a PC for gaming (I don't play consoles either) because I just can't use all the keys at one time you need to use to play the game.

If that makes sense.

Although games like Myst,Broken Sword and Discworld are firm favourites of mine because they are point and click.
 
dazdon said:
I can't use a PC for gaming (I don't play consoles either) because I just can't use all the keys at one time you need to use to play the game.

If that makes sense.

Although games like Myst,Broken Sword and Discworld are firm favourites of mine because they are point and click.

You could always use a controller, there are Xbox 360 controllers made specifically for that purpose.
 
I'm smashing life with two overclocked GTX 580s in SLI, they both have 3gbs of VRAM, so they should last a while before I have to upgrade further.

Please excuse me while I disengage my PC gamer douchebag superiority complex.

Haha. Seriously though, I agree with the sentiment, but some older games just don't look right rendered balls to the wall.

I wouldn't want to play Zelda OOT in such strained detail, it doesn't look right. It's not how I remember it as a kid. Rendering a game like that to excess just makes it plain obvious you're viewing a computer programme, it removes any potential for imagination to join the dots.

Modern games however, we're moving further and further towards photorealism, and the closest you'll get to that at present is on a PC.

Like you highlighted, the potential for modding games is mind blowing, and is a truly awesome feature. There are some bright minds on the internet, and on the PC, games are only limited by the imagination of the people with the technical know how to edit and modify them. Endless possibilities.

Cheaper games too.

With all that said, I'll be getting a PS4 in the post tomorrow. Ha.

I wasn't planning to at launch, but I was swallowed up by the hype a little. I'm a console gamer anyway, they're just a bit more no nonsense. For the technically savvy, there's really no excuse, but part of it is nostalgia.

They might be obsolete soon, but it's a strangely sought after feeling, that childlike excitement. Few things touch that spot as an adult, things that make you feel like a big kid again. Console launches provide that.

How ultimately tragic. Haha.
 
I played that Walking Dead game on PC, was fun, other than that its usually Football Manager, I've not got the best laptop (I know a PC is better for games mostly), have an Xbox 360 but hardly go on that atm.
 
One thing that puts me off PC gaming is well..it's on a PC. My computer is in my room. What happens when my friends are over? I don't want a group of people sitting in my tiny room. I like having a console in a room where my mates and I can chill. Also, my console is connected to a tv which has a much bigger screen than my computer.

Use whatever suits you best I say. Obviously PC has many advantages but console has is more ideal for my situation + games are released on console earlier. I'm not aiming this at you Skash but I hate PC snobs and fanboys of certain consoles. Use what you want and shut up :)

I'm not that tech savvy either and that puts me off PC with regards to modding and all that stuff.
 
Manchester_lalala said:
After playing 2 hours on the ps4 tonight, I can't see anything topping it. It's so quick and easy access to everything. Well worth the cash.

I've not played a PS4 yet though i recently bought (well the Mrs did) a PS3. With the PS3 i got Skyrim, now i played Skyrim when it first came out on my old PC.

That PC was four or five years old with a GTX 260 being the only upgrade also the whole machine had serious over heating problems. On the PC i had to play Skyrim on medium to low settings.

Now having said that the PC graphics absolutely shit all over the PS3. I'm not kidding a really old on the verge of breaking PC could run Skyrim on low and medium settings (they go up to ultra high settings iirc) far far better than a PS3.

Honestly the gulf between PC and consoles gaming is fucking crazy huge. Online you get far bigger maps and far more players to interact with. Graphically the PC obliterates consoles. Then you have the controls as a mouse and keyboard for any first person shooter/rpg is much more intuitive to play with. The you have mods which you can download to change the game to whatever way you like it.

foetus said:
One thing that puts me off PC gaming is well..it's on a PC. My computer is in my room. What happens when my friends are over? I don't want a group of people sitting in my tiny room. I like having a console in a room where my mates and I can chill. Also, my console is connected to a tv which has a much bigger screen than my computer.

Use whatever suits you best I say. Obviously PC has many advantages but console has is more ideal for my situation + games are released on console earlier. I'm not aiming this at you Skash but I hate PC snobs and fanboys of certain consoles. Use what you want and shut up :)

I'm not that tech savvy either and that puts me off PC with regards to modding and all that stuff.

When i moved house recently i put the PC in the living room and plugged it in to my 44 inch TV. I use it as a full on multimedia and gaming center and its fucking awesome. I watch the match streamed of the net (thank you shadygiz for your blog) on to my TV. I play my games through the TV and watch any TV show or film via XBMC or Bittorrent.

It's a fucking brilliant setup i can't recommend it enough. Seriously get your PC out of your bedroom and into your living room and unlock its full potential.
 
Challenger1978 said:
foetus said:
One thing that puts me off PC gaming is well..it's on a PC. My computer is in my room. What happens when my friends are over? I don't want a group of people sitting in my tiny room. I like having a console in a room where my mates and I can chill. Also, my console is connected to a tv which has a much bigger screen than my computer.

Use whatever suits you best I say. Obviously PC has many advantages but console has is more ideal for my situation + games are released on console earlier. I'm not aiming this at you Skash but I hate PC snobs and fanboys of certain consoles. Use what you want and shut up :)

I'm not that tech savvy either and that puts me off PC with regards to modding and all that stuff.

When i moved house recently i put the PC in the living room and plugged it in to my 44 inch TV. I use it as a full on multimedia and gaming center and its fucking awesome. I watch the match streamed of the net (thank you shadygiz for your blog) on to my TV. I play my games through the TV and watch any TV show or film via XBMC or Bittorrent.

It's a fucking brilliant setup i can't recommend it enough. Seriously get your PC out of your bedroom and into your living room and unlock its full potential.
Whilst that does sound tempting, a PC would look completely out of place in the room I currently has my xbox set up in. I also prefer having my PC in my room for some 'private time' if you get where I'm coming from. My mates have consoles as well so I can share games with them.

I'm in no way trying to hate on PC. I understand it has many advantages but it's not for me.
 
foetus said:
Challenger1978 said:
foetus said:
One thing that puts me off PC gaming is well..it's on a PC. My computer is in my room. What happens when my friends are over? I don't want a group of people sitting in my tiny room. I like having a console in a room where my mates and I can chill. Also, my console is connected to a tv which has a much bigger screen than my computer.

Use whatever suits you best I say. Obviously PC has many advantages but console has is more ideal for my situation + games are released on console earlier. I'm not aiming this at you Skash but I hate PC snobs and fanboys of certain consoles. Use what you want and shut up :)

I'm not that tech savvy either and that puts me off PC with regards to modding and all that stuff.

When i moved house recently i put the PC in the living room and plugged it in to my 44 inch TV. I use it as a full on multimedia and gaming center and its fucking awesome. I watch the match streamed of the net (thank you shadygiz for your blog) on to my TV. I play my games through the TV and watch any TV show or film via XBMC or Bittorrent.

It's a fucking brilliant setup i can't recommend it enough. Seriously get your PC out of your bedroom and into your living room and unlock its full potential.
Whilst that does sound tempting, a PC would look completely out of place in the room I currently has my xbox set up in. I also prefer having my PC in my room for some 'private time' if you get where I'm coming from. My mates have consoles as well so I can share games with them.

I'm in no way trying to hate on PC. I understand it has many advantages but it's not for me.

That's what laptops were invented for ;-)
 
foetus said:
One thing that puts me off PC gaming is well..it's on a PC. My computer is in my room. What happens when my friends are over? I don't want a group of people sitting in my tiny room. I like having a console in a room where my mates and I can chill. Also, my console is connected to a tv which has a much bigger screen than my computer.

Use whatever suits you best I say. Obviously PC has many advantages but console has is more ideal for my situation + games are released on console earlier. I'm not aiming this at you Skash but I hate PC snobs and fanboys of certain consoles. Use what you want and shut up :)

I'm not that tech savvy either and that puts me off PC with regards to modding and all that stuff.
Stick your PC in whatever room you like and attach it to the telly.

I'm not trying to persuade more people to become PC gamers. I know it's not for everyone.
 
I am also a PC Gamer and have been since the 80's. I also own every Playstation so am in a great position to comment.

Playstations are a quick fix gaming solution. Turn it on and boom...

My PC games are modded to buggery. I have Skyrim on both systems and prefer the better looking, better playing PC version to it's console counterpart.

I have always thought that a PC is for when I want mature gaming and a PS for when I don't.
 
My PC is shit but I use it for gaming anyways. I can play the newest games on medium graphics still but my computer is starting to get buggy and not work nearly as well even after several factory restores. I am thinking that once I have saved up the money I am going to commit 3000 to a good build of my own.
 
BoundedCascade said:
My PC is shit but I use it for gaming anyways. I can play the newest games on medium graphics still but my computer is starting to get buggy and not work nearly as well even after several factory restores. I am thinking that once I have saved up the money I am going to commit 3000 to a good build of my own.

Mate £1000 or under will get you a very very good PC that will last for years if it's a self build. There's no need to spend that type of money unless you want to slap in several top of the range graphic cards so you can plug in multiple monitors and have something like this.

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EDIT: changed picture

EDIT2: I've just noticed that jammy bastard is playing Eve online with that setup
 
Best advice I can give about building your own PC is make sure you time it right. Make sure there's no bottleneck breaker on the horizon that will leave you kicking yourself because you find yourself with a brand new machine that's now not only out of date but needs a whole new motherboard to upgrade to the latest and greatest. With DDR4 released in December, you're probably best off waiting half a year or even a year for reasonably priced DDR4 motherboards and for RAM costs to come down. Also, make sure you know CPU roadmaps and know for instance if the next generation of CPU will be backwards compatible with your motherboard. The standards you need to check are:
  • DDR
  • PCIE
  • SATA
  • Possibly USB as well - although this is irrelevant in terms of playing games, fastest USB is always a bonus.
That's the best way to get maximum valuable. Futureproof your PC by making sure everything will be as upgradeable as it can be.
 
Ocarina look fantastic, hope to get my new pc in the new year my first in years I need my MMO fix, still get a PS4 before Xmas any Xbone games will come to PC so I will get titanfall etc for PC.
 

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