Why so many 3pm games?

Sky Turned there attention to the toon army and the the cathedral on the hill again.....
 
ysmsa said:
No they shouldn't, it's not the 1970's or earlier.

As match going fan with a life outside of footy the variable k.o. times allow for other stuff, social, family, work, even attending other games etc

It should deffo be Home Away Home Away Home etc for the League programme though, no fuckin question.
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That is impossible.
 
Stato said:
I think a lot of consideration needs to be had of we remove the blackout.
The money should go down the leagues all the way down to none league.
They are the ones that would see the impact of people staying at home to watch a game rather than going.

But to be honest I do not trust the prem to distribute the funds down
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If people are staying at home to watch the 12.30 and 17.30 Saturday games, they aren’t going to watch their local non-league side at 15.00 either because when the dinnertime and teatime games are on would be when they are travelling to and from the non-league 15.00 games (especially for away games) and having a Greggs on the way there, a few pints before and after the game and a chippy on the way home so it makes no difference if Prem 15.00 games were shown live in tele.
 
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Psychedelic Casual said:
If people are staying at home to watch the 12.30 and 17.30 Saturday games, they aren’t going to watch their local non-league side at 15.00 either because when the dinnertime and teatime games are on would be when they are travelling to and from the non-league 15.00 games (especially for away games) and having a Greggs on the way there, a few pints before and after the game and a chippy on the way home so it makes no difference if Prem 15.00 games were shown live in tele.
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A lot of non league clubs use the 12.30 and 5.30 games as a selling point. Try and people down in the clubhouse early. Or stay late. And still get to watch their local team live.
 
Stephen230 said:
A lot of non league clubs use the 12.30 and 5.30 games as a selling point. Try and people down in the clubhouse early. Or stay late. And still get to watch their local team live.
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League 1 and 2 are the same, and that's why all lot have made prudent investments in sports bars. If you are the sort of team that gets under 5k at home it makes a significant difference.


The changing of kick-off times during the winter world cup was to take advantage shoulder games.
 
Psychedelic Casual said:
That is impossible.
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How many teams in a League would be needed to make it happen?

For me, Home Home Away Away etc happens far too often these days for it to be necessary.

We know it's TV and PL dictating the schedule for the £££ but it don't half piss match going fans around.
 
ysmsa said:
How many teams in a League would be needed to make it happen?

For me, Home Home Away Away etc happens far too often these days for it to be necessary.

We know it's TV and PL dictating the schedule for the £££ but it don't half piss match going fans around.
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It doesn’t matter how many teams are in the league, once everyone from one side of the fixtures has played everyone from the other side of the fixtures (alternating h/a/h/a…), the teams on the same side of the fixtures who were at home on Matchday One would have to play each other meaning some would have to be either home twice in a row or away twice in a row. And that would repeat a number of times a season.

It’s the clubs as well as the TV and league.

Clubs are allowed to request to be at home or away on certain Matchdays. City for example always ask to be away first game of the season to give the pitch another week’s prep before it’s played on (after it’s had concerts on through the Summer).

At other times, outside events mean a team has to play away at certain times. United have to play away the weekend that the Super League Grand Final is scheduled, for example.

The PL can refuse those requests at times though.
 
Psychedelic Casual said:
It doesn’t matter how many teams are in the league, once everyone from one side of the fixtures has played everyone from the other side of the fixtures (alternating h/a/h/a…), the teams on the same side of the fixtures who were at home on Matchday One would have to play each other meaning some would have to be either home twice in a row or away twice in a row. And that would repeat a number of times a season.

It’s the clubs as well as the TV and league.

Clubs are allowed to request to be at home or away on certain Matchdays. City for example always ask to be away first game of the season to give the pitch another week’s prep before it’s played on (after it’s had concerts on through the Summer).

At other times, outside events mean a team has to play away at certain times. United have to play away the weekend that the Super League Grand Final is scheduled, for example.

The PL can refuse those requests at times though.
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Super league is generally on an international weekend to give it top billing on Sky. But I now what you are saying generally.
Forest fixtures are moved if the clash with intn'l cricket. Or Nottingham Goose Fair!!!!!!!! (one for the old timers)...
 
Pubteam Lomas said:
Super league is generally on an international weekend to give it top billing on Sky. But I now what you are saying generally.
Forest fixtures are moved if the clash with intn'l cricket. Or Nottingham Goose Fair!!!!!!!! (one for the old timers)...
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Check out James H Reeve on you tube at the Embassy club and his take on the goose fair !!
 
Psychedelic Casual said:
If people are staying at home to watch the 12.30 and 17.30 Saturday games, they aren’t going to watch their local non-league side at 15.00 either because when the dinnertime and teatime games are on would be when they are travelling to and from the non-league 15.00 games (especially for away games) and having a Greggs on the way there, a few pints before and after the game and a chippy on the way home so it makes no difference if Prem 15.00 games were shown live in tele.
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Casual fans do watch the 12.30pm game before a non/lower league game or after at 5.30pm as I am one of them. If someone is going to watch Hyde United they are going to watch them because they are a 10 min walk or 5 min drive away. There’s plenty of time to do both or all 3 games.

If Spurs-Liverpool was on at 3pm the same time as Hyde-Morpeth I would watch Spurs-Liverpool but the latter game doesn’t have to be on at 3pm.

All prem games should be streamed live but just either side of the 2:45pm - 5:15pm blackout, there is enough time from Friday-Monday to fit them in. It’s the best of both worlds.

There is no reason for City v Brighton, an attractive elite level game to not be shown on TV. That game could have been any other time if all games were shown live in the UK.
 
In the "good ol' days" ALL games started at 3:00pm on Saturday. Used to sit in front of the TV watching the teletypewriter burst into life for results as games finished with my dad sitting with the Littlewoods pools coupon in his hand - eventually screwing it up and tossing it in the fire as he hadn't won anything.
 
Bluekiwi said:
In the "good ol' days" ALL games started at 3:00pm on Saturday. Used to sit in front of the TV watching the teletypewriter burst into life for results as games finished with my dad sitting with the Littlewoods pools coupon in his hand - eventually screwing it up and tossing it in the fire as he hadn't won anything.
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We used to go to Stalybridge Celtic. A friend of the family lived 5 minutes walk from the ground.
Dash back to there's to watch Grandstand and listen to the brilliant Len Martin deliver the full time scores.

Sundays were for reenacting a goal you'd seen on MOTD on the field, whilst your parents slept off Sunday lunch.
 
Pubteam Lomas said:
Super league is generally on an international weekend to give it top billing on Sky. But I now what you are saying generally.
Forest fixtures are moved if the clash with intn'l cricket. Or Nottingham Goose Fair!!!!!!!! (one for the old timers)...
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I’ve been to a few Grand Finals after going to City earlier in the day.
 
Psychedelic Casual said:
I’ve been to a few Grand Finals after going to City earlier in the day.
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Yeah, been to loads. I think this middle international break is pretty new isn’t it? Wasn’t it just September then November?

I actually used to comment on an annual basis how lucky it was that it fell on a City home game yet again, until someone with a brain pointed out that it had fuck all to do with coincidence.
 
Stephen230 said:
Yeah, been to loads. I think this middle international break is pretty new isn’t it? Wasn’t it just September then November?

I actually used to comment on an annual basis how lucky it was that it fell on a City home game yet again, until someone with a brain pointed out that it had fuck all to do with coincidence.
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I think the October break first appeared two years ago due to World Cup qualifying having slipped behind schedule as a result of the pandemic. I‘m sure I read then that it was going to be a one-off but that obviously wasn’t the case.
 
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