Why The Hell Would Anyone Want Mancini Sacked ?

[Blue Haze]

There's a difference between wanting his sacking and feeling it's inevitable.

So where do you get this inevitable feeling from??

Didn't our owners think hey we have a top manager here, here's a 5 year contract?!

Sorry but you listen to the media and read it and take it all in like a good little sheep!

From the apparent reality that Mancini cannot succeed in Europe. Advancing in that competition is paramount to our success from many crucial angles: marketing, FFP, UEFA coefficients, and generally not being the laughingstock of Europe. These losses are probably damaging our brand.

After we won the league, I convinced myself that Mancini would learn from all his failures in Europe and improve. Instead we put up the worst performance of any English club in the history of the CL. It's not the level of competition either. Sporting beat us last season and Kyiv the season before. For whatever reason our football in Europe is turgid and Mancini cannot fix it.

I guess we can keep this up and hope that Mancini will suddenly transform into the successful European manager our owner almost certainly wants, but how likely is that given what we've seen? It doesn't seem like a realistic hope anymore.

 

[St Helens Blue (Exiled)]

There's a whole load of people on here who seem offended that anyone should question whether a change of management might be necessary. Like its a sign of disloyalty or unreasonable impatience.

I don't agree with that view. Of course I don't want knee jerk actions, of course not, no-one does. But that does not mean you should not continually assess how you are doing to make sure you are doing everything you can to stay on track. Burying your head in the sand and refusing to take actions when they are needed is perhaps no less stupid than taking knee jerk actions all the time.

If I was the owner, I would be asking myself "is Mancini the guy who will deliver title after title and success in the CL, given time?". It's a fair question. Or was he lucky to scrape home last season, and unlikely to consistently repeat that achievement? Was our CL performance excused by how tough the group was? Is our recent arrival on this stage an excuse? Or was it a sign that we have not progressed by now to the level we should be at?

These are fair questions in my view. I don't think it's wrong to be thinking them. Stability and sticking with people is all very admirable, but it's only the right thing to do if they are the right people to stick with. Does anyone believe Mark Hughes would have won us the title last year? That is why it was not unreasonable to sack him when we did.

Good post mate. As you say,there are many who have a pop or call you a disloyal blue if you have an opinion which is somewhat critical of the team,a player,a performance or the manager.
Here is my opinion for what it's worth.
Mancini will be gone by the summer at the latest. Let's be brutally honest here,if Aguero hadn't scored in May then would he still be boss.
?I am not sure to be honest.
I have been Mancinis staunchest supporter and have never once advocated a change as I believe stability is the key,however my opinion after this seasons European adventure has swayed me somewhat.
I do not care how hard the group was. 0 wins out of 6 is just not acceptable. I wanted the Europa league for our coefficient and a chance to win another trophy.
Clearly there are divisions within the squad and when you see players with no desire,passion or pride it really frustrates me.

Sunday is a pivotal moment for the club,team and us fans.I feel there is certainly a 50/50 split amongst what should happen to Mancini-do we keep him,do we look elsewhere?
Not kneejerk,just a considered opinion of where we are.

On a final note-I would take the premier league over the champs league every single year

 

[r.soleofsalford]

Without a doubt Real and Dortmund are 2 of the top 3 or 4 teams in europe.

what is worrying is our slowness breaking forward, how long do we have to wait till this is sorted out.

before sunday would be nice

 

[Didsbury Dave]

There's a whole load of people on here who seem offended that anyone should question whether a change of management might be necessary. Like its a sign of disloyalty or unreasonable impatience.

I don't agree with that view. Of course I don't want knee jerk actions, of course not, no-one does. But that does not mean you should not continually assess how you are doing to make sure you are doing everything you can to stay on track. Burying your head in the sand and refusing to take actions when they are needed is perhaps no less stupid than taking knee jerk actions all the time.

If I was the owner, I would be asking myself "is Mancini the guy who will deliver title after title and success in the CL, given time?". It's a fair question. Or was he lucky to scrape home last season, and unlikely to consistently repeat that achievement? Was our CL performance excused by how tough the group was? Is our recent arrival on this stage an excuse? Or was it a sign that we have not progressed by now to the level we should be at?

These are fair questions in my view. I don't think it's wrong to be thinking them. Stability and sticking with people is all very admirable, but it's only the right thing to do if they are the right people to stick with. Does anyone believe Mark Hughes would have won us the title last year? That is why it was not unreasonable to sack him when we did.

Good post mate. As you say,there are many who have a pop or call you a disloyal blue if you have an opinion which is somewhat critical of the team,a player,a performance or the manager.
Here is my opinion for what it's worth.
Mancini will be gone by the summer at the latest. Let's be brutally honest here,if Aguero hadn't scored in May then would he still be boss.
?I am not sure to be honest.
I have been Mancinis staunchest supporter and have never once advocated a change as I believe stability is the key,however my opinion after this seasons European adventure has swayed me somewhat.
I do not care how hard the group was. 0 wins out of 6 is just not acceptable. I wanted the Europa league for our coefficient and a chance to win another trophy.
Clearly there are divisions within the squad and when you see players with no desire,passion or pride it really frustrates me.

Sunday is a pivotal moment for the club,team and us fans.I feel there is certainly a 50/50 split amongst what should happen to Mancini-do we keep him,do we look elsewhere?
Not kneejerk,just a considered opinion of where we are.

On a final note-I would take the premier league over the champs league every single year

Good, fair, post, and I am totally in agreement about what a huge game Sunday is - for Mancini. Lose it, and I don't think we'll come back. And he'll be gone in the summer.

 

[KennyG]

Now would be the time for Bobbys agent to start asking around
Shit is heading straight for the fan
We will never be a force in europe under this guy
Therefore chances of becoming a global brand diminish
The barca duo have been given the power to do this and its gonna be minus bobby
Thanks for the memories I say, you elevated the club to a new level but where we aim to go, you simply cannot reach, can be no sentiment with stakes so high

 

[hertsblue]

I think mancini has earned the right to be judged at end of the season. If he gets a league win again i for one will be very happy.

I will be very, very happy.

This. + Back him with his targets, if any, in January.
Summer transfer policy was awfull. Like he asked for Bollinger champagne and was given Lambrusco.

 

[the goats backside]

There's a whole load of people on here who seem offended that anyone should question whether a change of management might be necessary. Like its a sign of disloyalty or unreasonable impatience.

I don't agree with that view. Of course I don't want knee jerk actions, of course not, no-one does. But that does not mean you should not continually assess how you are doing to make sure you are doing everything you can to stay on track. Burying your head in the sand and refusing to take actions when they are needed is perhaps no less stupid than taking knee jerk actions all the time.

If I was the owner, I would be asking myself "is Mancini the guy who will deliver title after title and success in the CL, given time?". It's a fair question. Or was he lucky to scrape home last season, and unlikely to consistently repeat that achievement? Was our CL performance excused by how tough the group was? Is our recent arrival on this stage an excuse? Or was it a sign that we have not progressed by now to the level we should be at?

These are fair questions in my view. I don't think it's wrong to be thinking them. Stability and sticking with people is all very admirable, but it's only the right thing to do if they are the right people to stick with. Does anyone believe Mark Hughes would have won us the title last year? That is why it was not unreasonable to sack him when we did.

Good post mate. As you say,there are many who have a pop or call you a disloyal blue if you have an opinion which is somewhat critical of the team,a player,a performance or the manager.
Here is my opinion for what it's worth.
Mancini will be gone by the summer at the latest. Let's be brutally honest here,if Aguero hadn't scored in May then would he still be boss.
?I am not sure to be honest.
I have been Mancinis staunchest supporter and have never once advocated a change as I believe stability is the key,however my opinion after this seasons European adventure has swayed me somewhat.
I do not care how hard the group was. 0 wins out of 6 is just not acceptable. I wanted the Europa league for our coefficient and a chance to win another trophy.
Clearly there are divisions within the squad and when you see players with no desire,passion or pride it really frustrates me.

Sunday is a pivotal moment for the club,team and us fans.I feel there is certainly a 50/50 split amongst what should happen to Mancini-do we keep him,do we look elsewhere?
Not kneejerk,just a considered opinion of where we are.

On a final note-I would take the premier league over the champs league every single year

Good, fair, post, and I am totally in agreement about what a huge game Sunday is - for Mancini. Lose it, and I don't think we'll come back. And he'll be gone in the summer.

We had a chance to paper over our European cracks last night but somehow we created a grand canyon. Whether people like it or not i am not sure even winning the league again will save RM

 

[St Helens Blue (Exiled)]

There's a whole load of people on here who seem offended that anyone should question whether a change of management might be necessary. Like its a sign of disloyalty or unreasonable impatience.

I don't agree with that view. Of course I don't want knee jerk actions, of course not, no-one does. But that does not mean you should not continually assess how you are doing to make sure you are doing everything you can to stay on track. Burying your head in the sand and refusing to take actions when they are needed is perhaps no less stupid than taking knee jerk actions all the time.

If I was the owner, I would be asking myself "is Mancini the guy who will deliver title after title and success in the CL, given time?". It's a fair question. Or was he lucky to scrape home last season, and unlikely to consistently repeat that achievement? Was our CL performance excused by how tough the group was? Is our recent arrival on this stage an excuse? Or was it a sign that we have not progressed by now to the level we should be at?

These are fair questions in my view. I don't think it's wrong to be thinking them. Stability and sticking with people is all very admirable, but it's only the right thing to do if they are the right people to stick with. Does anyone believe Mark Hughes would have won us the title last year? That is why it was not unreasonable to sack him when we did.

Good post mate. As you say,there are many who have a pop or call you a disloyal blue if you have an opinion which is somewhat critical of the team,a player,a performance or the manager.
Here is my opinion for what it's worth.
Mancini will be gone by the summer at the latest. Let's be brutally honest here,if Aguero hadn't scored in May then would he still be boss.
?I am not sure to be honest.
I have been Mancinis staunchest supporter and have never once advocated a change as I believe stability is the key,however my opinion after this seasons European adventure has swayed me somewhat.
I do not care how hard the group was. 0 wins out of 6 is just not acceptable. I wanted the Europa league for our coefficient and a chance to win another trophy.
Clearly there are divisions within the squad and when you see players with no desire,passion or pride it really frustrates me.

Sunday is a pivotal moment for the club,team and us fans.I feel there is certainly a 50/50 split amongst what should happen to Mancini-do we keep him,do we look elsewhere?
Not kneejerk,just a considered opinion of where we are.

On a final note-I would take the premier league over the champs league every single year

Good, fair, post, and I am totally in agreement about what a huge game Sunday is - for Mancini. Lose it, and I don't think we'll come back. And he'll be gone in the summer.

Cheers Dave. Don't get me wrong I like Mancini and so want him to take the club to the next level. If he can do this,I am very much in doubt. Will he get another opportunity,again I doubt it especially if the powers that be can get Pep,Jose(don't really want him) or even someone like Ancelotti (who I really rate).
We as fans need to take stock,keep believing we can retain the title and on Sunday make some serious fucking noise.
Difficult times but I wouldn't change any of it bud.

 

[bernabias home shirt]

Good post mate. As you say,there are many who have a pop or call you a disloyal blue if you have an opinion which is somewhat critical of the team,a player,a performance or the manager.
Here is my opinion for what it's worth.
Mancini will be gone by the summer at the latest. Let's be brutally honest here,if Aguero hadn't scored in May then would he still be boss.
?I am not sure to be honest.
I have been Mancinis staunchest supporter and have never once advocated a change as I believe stability is the key,however my opinion after this seasons European adventure has swayed me somewhat.
I do not care how hard the group was. 0 wins out of 6 is just not acceptable. I wanted the Europa league for our coefficient and a chance to win another trophy.
Clearly there are divisions within the squad and when you see players with no desire,passion or pride it really frustrates me.

Sunday is a pivotal moment for the club,team and us fans.I feel there is certainly a 50/50 split amongst what should happen to Mancini-do we keep him,do we look elsewhere?
Not kneejerk,just a considered opinion of where we are.

On a final note-I would take the premier league over the champs league every single year

Good, fair, post, and I am totally in agreement about what a huge game Sunday is - for Mancini. Lose it, and I don't think we'll come back. And he'll be gone in the summer.

We had a chance to paper over our European cracks last night but somehow we created a grand canyon. Whether people like it or not i am not sure even winning the league again will save RM

So he could be a double prem league winner and you think thats not enough?

 

[sir baconface]

The grass is always greener. Yeah there are problems with Mancini at the mo but both Mourinho and Pep have question marks against them in one respect or another. Klopp ain't the Messiah either and he ain't coming to the Etihad. None of these guys would guarantee anything. You've only got to look elsewhere on BM to see how split the views are.

The hierarchy needs to do some serious talking behind the scenes though. Motivation, tactics, scouting, signings, performance targets...nothing seems totally joined up. This is when the CEO needs to start earning his not inconsiderable salary.