Why The Hell Would Anyone Want Mancini Sacked ?

[Prestwich_Blue]

There's a quote from Ibrahimovic to prove it. What more do you want?

There's nine trophies to prove he's not.

Even Redknapp's won a cup competition. Birmingham won the League Cup a couple of seasons ago and got relegated.

So the only trophies that really count for a great manager are League & European. 2 of the 4 league titles he won really don't count and the other two his teams surrendered decent leads to scrape it on the last day. In Europe he's done the square root of fuck all.

 

[Mikeegrini]

Re: Mancini On His Way (Again?)

i really like mancini as a bloke, he's a decent manager but he makes mistakes like all managers.

yday, AVB out did him in the second half, he started playing more narrow, brought on defoe and moved bale to the centre.

mancini didn't act and that's what cost us the game, milner going off injured and kolarov coming on fucked us. it should have been another centre mid.

you can't sack a manager after winning 3 trophies in 3 seasons (IF we win the cup) though. i trust mansour 100% and he'll make the correct decision for the club.

Pantilimon, K Toure, Garcia, Aguero..... The unused subs

The only other option was Garcia, would he have done the same job Milner does?

no but we would have stood a better chance than bringing kolarov on.

It wasn't Mancinis lack of action which ''cost us the game'' it was his lack of options. It could be argued he should have swapped Milner for Sinclare but I doubt that would have been a better option? As has already been expressed it's easy to find fault after the fact.

What happened on Sunday is in microcosm of what has happened all season, once we get past our best dozen or so players options become limited.

 

[bluemc1]

not to fussed if he stays or not really, i just think all we need with the funds and squad we have is someone who knows the game and will pick his best team. what i do believe is that THIS season Mancini has not been great and has cost us the title and the best chance of getting out of the CL group, he picked Dzeko over Tevez in all the big games and thats where the title was lost and he kept doing it, he even played Mario over Tevez in the derby, so when the manager of my club is picking those 2 ahead of Tevez 1 he thinks they are better than him or 2 he is letting his personal issues affect Citys chances of winning things, whatever of those it is it makes me worry

 

[OB1]

There's a quote from Ibrahimovic to prove it. What more do you want?

There's nine trophies to prove he's not.

Even Redknapp's won a cup competition. Birmingham won the League Cup a couple of seasons ago and got relegated.

So the only trophies that really count for a great manager are League & European. 2 of the 4 league titles he won really don't count and the other two his teams surrendered decent leads to scrape it on the last day. In Europe he's done the square root of fuck all.

That is a somewhat harsh assessment of his trophy wins. We can get all hypothetical about what might have happened if... but he has won trophies and will hopefully add another to his CV next month.

 

[Skashion]

Even Redknapp's won a cup competition. Birmingham won the League Cup a couple of seasons ago and got relegated.

So the only trophies that really count for a great manager are League & European. 2 of the 4 league titles he won really don't count and the other two his teams surrendered decent leads to scrape it on the last day. In Europe he's done the square root of fuck all.

Oh here we go again. Trying to rob Mancini of credit for his Italian titles because he didn't cheat. Then trying to rob him of the title he won with a record 97 points and 17 consecutive wins. Do you think match-fixing doesn't impact on the league table or something? It's-oh-so-convenient isn't it. The record 97-points title win, isn't really a win at all... Despite the fact that, even without a points deduction for AC Milan, he'd have beaten them by 28 points! He got 89 points last season. That wins the title in any season apart from last year. Trying to claim he blundered his way to the title is so facetious. 89 points is a title-winning amount of points. He's got four titles, he won them all fair and square. The idea that they should be sullied, especially the record title-winning season, because he didn't cheat, shows utter bias against the man. Moreover, he won us a first title since 1968, taking over when we were 6th and getting us to 1st. We finished on 50 points in 2009 and finished on 89 points in 2012. He took Inter to a first title since 1989, taking over in fourth and winning three titles. I remember a time when you used to say that you measured a man by how many points he could us improve us by. Well, look will you? Improved us by thirty-nine points and Inter by thirty-eight. But never mind, you overlook his achievements then, because he's a bottler, except he still won them, but nearly bottled some, but actually didn't. Look, look, Mancini's a nearly bottler who still wins trophies!

 

[bluefandk]

There's a quote from Ibrahimovic to prove it. What more do you want?

There's nine trophies to prove he's not.

Even Redknapp's won a cup competition. Birmingham won the League Cup a couple of seasons ago and got relegated.

So the only trophies that really count for a great manager are League & European. 2 of the 4 league titles he won really don't count and the other two his teams surrendered decent leads to scrape it on the last day. In Europe he's done the square root of fuck all.

Its fair enough that you dont like Mancini and want him sacked, but trying to belittle the mans achievements in a futile attempt to justify your own personal hatred of the man just makes you seem petty.

Mancini is one of the most successfull manegers in the game and he has the trophies to prove it, and yes all his throphies (even the ones he has won with City) counts.

 

[Deepest Blue]

Re: Mancini On His Way (Again?)

That Star report was in yesterday's paper so was before the meltdown which will no doubt just stir the pot further until something happens.

We will get our answer soon enough IMO. Ferristain will want to make their moves in good time for next season so if Bob goes it will happen soon after season's end. If he's still here in June, he's staying IMO.

 

[bernabias home shirt]

Mancini's a bottler now... Comedy gold.

I've seen some shit on here but that one comment beats anything on here,and probably anything ever written on rawk or ragcafe
And from a mod
The mind fucking boggles.

 

[mcfcphil]

Mancini's a bottler now... Comedy gold.

There's a quote from Ibrahimovic to prove it. What more do you want?

Well if ibrahimovic says it then that’s it we may as well sack him now.

It’s very, very simple. In the two and a half seasons he’s been with us we have won the FA cup, qualified for the champions league each season, won the premier league and at least reached the final of the FA cup this season.
Now that is irrefutable, cast iron fact.

If you don’t think that’s enough to save his job then I disagree.
But what I would ask is, if you don’t think it’s enough to save his job, what is?
Would we need to win the league each season? That’s simply not going to happen at any club in any league in the world.
Do we need to need get out of the group stage of the champions league? If so, are you saying that getting to the quarter final is worthy of keeping a manager? Semi final? Final? I couldn’t care less whether we go out in the group stage or quarter final. It’s a cup – you either win it or you’re nowhere.

You can question managers over specific games – i agree mancini had a shocker yesterday. But I would counter that by saying ferguson’s tactical performance in the title decider at the etihad last season was absolutely woeful. He got it totally wrong and was found badly, badly wanting. It doesn’t mean he’s a bad manager because you look at the trophies he’s won and that tells the real story. In the same way the fact mancini has won a trophy in every single season he’s been a manager and for someone in his late 40s that’s a quite brilliant feat.

Judge a manager by what he wins. Trophy cabinets don’t lie.

 

[sam-caddick]

I posted this earlier in the early hours of the morning, but would like to put it out for those who have not seen it yet.

For me, this is the real reason why some of you Mancini outers should consider what you are wishing for.

Hope you can see where I am coming from.

In my opinion, sacking Mancini - paying him and his back room staff off to add to it - will be an even more of a step back than this season.

The money paid out on sacking him will no doubt affect FFP and who we can sign, players will have to get used to a new manager and new system which is a gamble, and who is to say players who have flourished under Mancini start to go to pot with a new manager because of their desired systems?

Mancini knows his team, he knows the faults and how to repair them, he knows we didn't press on from last season and improve the team.

Who is better than him?? Mourinho ain't gonna' come because he has the scum job on his mind down the pipeline, Guardiola is at Bayern, Ancelotti looks set to replace Mourinho at Madrid, Klopp wants to stay at Borussia.

Pellegrini, Simeone, Conte, Laudrup to name a few are all great coaches, but Mancini is as good if not better than them, his trophy haul proves that!

FORZA Mancini I say, one bad season does not justify a sacking if you ask me! He is putting a lot towards building the foundations for where our club will be in 10 years time, developing us an identity and putting trophies in the cabinet at the same time.

We are a new club to the big time in football, we have to have patience, and from what I see is steady progress - yes with a few mistakes made here and there - but no doubt we are slowly becoming the force Mansour hoped to see from us when he bought us.

We don't have the mentality or identity yet of United; Madrid, Barca, Bayern, Milan and Juventus, these clubs have an aura around them in which players automatically know what is expected of them when players sign their contract's for them. Attitude has played a huge downfall on our season this year, Mancini has tried to put it in place with his demands and criticism of players, eventually it will all click into place and players who play for City will know everytime they go on the pitch they have to play at 100%.

Look at United! Some of their first team would probably not even make our bench but because of the aura and expectations around United, players raise their games and play to their potential pretty much most of the time.

If this City team was a United team, it would not suprise me it getting close to 100 points and close to the CL final! The identity of playing for the scum makes every players attitude and concentration 100% at all times, and until our identity, attitude and expectations become matched of that of the current great sides in Europe we will keep getting inconsistency.

Fergie spent a tough first few years trying to put a mentality and identity back in the scum, his managerial stability is the reason why they have that annoying yet praiseworthy attitude of always playing at 100%, and know what is always expected of you, and to go on and do more than that. Would United be the force they are today if they sacked Fergie after those first couple of years and gone though a few more managers in the process? I don't know but I doubt it.

Mancini is the man who is trying no doubt to create this mentality at our club, it is not going to be an overnight process as it take years! By doing this we need stability and sacking Mancini puts us another step behind at achieving this feat!